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Author
31 Oct 2006 8:59 PM
DWalker
In SQL 2005 Server Management Studio, when you type T-SQL commands into a
SQL query box, keywords are colored blue, comments are green, etc. (by
default).

Why is the word SERVICE colored blue like a T-SQL keyword?

Thanks.

David Walker

Author
31 Oct 2006 9:07 PM
Arnie Rowland
[Service] is an object that you can create, drop, and use. Therefore it is
also a T-SQL keyword.

--
Arnie Rowland, Ph.D.
Westwood Consulting, Inc

Most good judgment comes from experience.
Most experience comes from bad judgment.
- Anonymous

You can't help someone get up a hill without getting a little closer to the
top yourself.
- H. Norman Schwarzkopf


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"DWalker" <n***@none.com> wrote in message
news:eVCR59S$GHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> In SQL 2005 Server Management Studio, when you type T-SQL commands into a
> SQL query box, keywords are colored blue, comments are green, etc. (by
> default).
>
> Why is the word SERVICE colored blue like a T-SQL keyword?
>
> Thanks.
>
> David Walker
Author
1 Nov 2006 11:28 PM
DWalker
"Arnie Rowland" <ar***@1568.com> wrote in
news:OvVsbCT$GHA.3260@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

> [Service] is an object that you can create, drop, and use. Therefore
> it is also a T-SQL keyword.
>

Where is this documented? Why doesn't the word SERVICE have an index entry
in BOL 2005?

Why isn't SERVICE in the list of T-SQL reserved words in BOL 2005?  (I
guess it's not a reserved word even though it gets colored blue.)

And why, if anyone knows, does sending feedback on BOL 2005 fail with:

<sqldo***@microsoft.com>:
205.248.106.30 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 550 5.1.1 User unknown

???

Thanks.

David
Author
2 Nov 2006 12:02 AM
Gail Erickson [MS]
> Where is this documented? Why doesn't the word SERVICE have an index entry
> in BOL 2005?
You're not getting anything returned in the index on the word 'service'?  In
the most recent update to BOL, the index returns the following choices when
SERVICE is the keyword.
service See services [Analysis Services]
service See services [Integration Services]
service See services [Notification Services]
service See services [Reporting Services]
service See services [Service Broker]
service See services [SQL Server]

Or where you expecting to see something like this in the index?

SERVICE
    ALTER
    CREATE
    DROP

If so, we could consider doing that in a future update, but for now you
would be better off using more complete phrases in the index like 'CREATE
SERVICE' or 'DROP SERVICE'.

> Why isn't SERVICE in the list of T-SQL reserved words in BOL 2005?  (I
> guess it's not a reserved word even though it gets colored blue.)
It probably should be. I've filed a doc bug for this issue. Thanks for
reporting this.

> And why, if anyone knows, does sending feedback on BOL 2005 fail with:
>
> <sqldo***@microsoft.com>:
> 205.248.106.30 does not like recipient.
> Remote host said: 550 5.1.1 User unknown

I suspect this is a transient error, but I've forwarded your e-mail to the
appropriate team for further evaluation.

--
Gail Erickson [MS]
SQL Server Documentation Team
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
Download the latest version of Books Online from
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sql/2005/downloads/books.mspx


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"DWalker" <n***@none.com> wrote in message
news:edo4A2g$GHA.1556@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> "Arnie Rowland" <ar***@1568.com> wrote in
> news:OvVsbCT$GHA.3260@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
>
>> [Service] is an object that you can create, drop, and use. Therefore
>> it is also a T-SQL keyword.
>>
>
> Where is this documented? Why doesn't the word SERVICE have an index entry
> in BOL 2005?
>
> Why isn't SERVICE in the list of T-SQL reserved words in BOL 2005?  (I
> guess it's not a reserved word even though it gets colored blue.)
>
> And why, if anyone knows, does sending feedback on BOL 2005 fail with:
>
> <sqldo***@microsoft.com>:
> 205.248.106.30 does not like recipient.
> Remote host said: 550 5.1.1 User unknown
>
> ???
>
> Thanks.
>
> David
Author
2 Nov 2006 4:02 AM
Roy Harvey
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 16:02:07 -0800, "Gail Erickson [MS]"
<ga***@online.microsoft.com> wrote:

>If so, we could consider doing that in a future update, but for now you
>would be better off using more complete phrases in the index like 'CREATE
>SERVICE' or 'DROP SERVICE'.

That is fine when you already have some idea about what SERVICE is
about.  If the point is to find out what SERVICE is about that
approach is not possible.

Roy Harvey
Beacon Falls, CT
Author
2 Nov 2006 8:48 AM
Tibor Karaszi
Gail,

>> Why isn't SERVICE in the list of T-SQL reserved words in BOL 2005?  (I
>> guess it's not a reserved word even though it gets colored blue.)
> It probably should be. I've filed a doc bug for this issue. Thanks for reporting this.

You might want to cancel that. SERVICE isn't a keyword (*) and it is SSMS that has it the wrong way.
Check out Roger Wolters book on SB, page 59-60 and you'll see that they designed it so that some of
the new language constructs aren't actually keywords. Roger talks about SEND and RECEIVE but SERVICE
seems to be in that category. In below script, there is no error message, even though I'm not
delimiting the word SERVICE:

USE tempdb
CREATE TABLE SERVICE (c1 int)
SELECT * FROM SERVICE

(*) One could of course get into the debate of what a keyword really is. I don't know, perhaps a
keyword can work as an un-qualified identifier, while others can't. I'll leave that for you to
investigate. :-)

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"Gail Erickson [MS]" <ga***@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:urgXkIh$GHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Where is this documented? Why doesn't the word SERVICE have an index entry
>> in BOL 2005?
> You're not getting anything returned in the index on the word 'service'?  In the most recent
> update to BOL, the index returns the following choices when SERVICE is the keyword.
> service See services [Analysis Services]
> service See services [Integration Services]
> service See services [Notification Services]
> service See services [Reporting Services]
> service See services [Service Broker]
> service See services [SQL Server]
>
> Or where you expecting to see something like this in the index?
>
> SERVICE
>    ALTER
>    CREATE
>    DROP
>
> If so, we could consider doing that in a future update, but for now you would be better off using
> more complete phrases in the index like 'CREATE SERVICE' or 'DROP SERVICE'.
>
>> Why isn't SERVICE in the list of T-SQL reserved words in BOL 2005?  (I
>> guess it's not a reserved word even though it gets colored blue.)
> It probably should be. I've filed a doc bug for this issue. Thanks for reporting this.
>
>> And why, if anyone knows, does sending feedback on BOL 2005 fail with:
>>
>> <sqldo***@microsoft.com>:
>> 205.248.106.30 does not like recipient.
>> Remote host said: 550 5.1.1 User unknown
>
> I suspect this is a transient error, but I've forwarded your e-mail to the appropriate team for
> further evaluation.
>
> --
> Gail Erickson [MS]
> SQL Server Documentation Team
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
> Download the latest version of Books Online from
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sql/2005/downloads/books.mspx
>
>
> "DWalker" <n***@none.com> wrote in message news:edo4A2g$GHA.1556@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> "Arnie Rowland" <ar***@1568.com> wrote in
>> news:OvVsbCT$GHA.3260@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
>>
>>> [Service] is an object that you can create, drop, and use. Therefore
>>> it is also a T-SQL keyword.
>>>
>>
>> Where is this documented? Why doesn't the word SERVICE have an index entry
>> in BOL 2005?
>>
>> Why isn't SERVICE in the list of T-SQL reserved words in BOL 2005?  (I
>> guess it's not a reserved word even though it gets colored blue.)
>>
>> And why, if anyone knows, does sending feedback on BOL 2005 fail with:
>>
>> <sqldo***@microsoft.com>:
>> 205.248.106.30 does not like recipient.
>> Remote host said: 550 5.1.1 User unknown
>>
>> ???
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> David
>
>
Author
2 Nov 2006 5:44 PM
Gail Erickson [MS]
> You might want to cancel that. SERVICE isn't a keyword (*) and it is SSMS
> that has it the wrong way.

Thanks Tibor.  My follow-up investigation arrived at the same conclusion :>)

--
Gail Erickson [MS]
SQL Server Documentation Team
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
Download the latest version of Books Online from
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sql/2005/downloads/books.mspx
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"Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_kara***@hotmail.nomail.com> wrote in
message news:%23sIvrul$GHA.3536@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Gail,
>
>>> Why isn't SERVICE in the list of T-SQL reserved words in BOL 2005?  (I
>>> guess it's not a reserved word even though it gets colored blue.)
>> It probably should be. I've filed a doc bug for this issue. Thanks for
>> reporting this.
>
> You might want to cancel that. SERVICE isn't a keyword (*) and it is SSMS
> that has it the wrong way. Check out Roger Wolters book on SB, page 59-60
> and you'll see that they designed it so that some of the new language
> constructs aren't actually keywords. Roger talks about SEND and RECEIVE
> but SERVICE seems to be in that category. In below script, there is no
> error message, even though I'm not delimiting the word SERVICE:
>
> USE tempdb
> CREATE TABLE SERVICE (c1 int)
> SELECT * FROM SERVICE
>
> (*) One could of course get into the debate of what a keyword really is. I
> don't know, perhaps a keyword can work as an un-qualified identifier,
> while others can't. I'll leave that for you to investigate. :-)
>
> --
> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
>
>
> "Gail Erickson [MS]" <ga***@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:urgXkIh$GHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Where is this documented? Why doesn't the word SERVICE have an index
>>> entry
>>> in BOL 2005?
>> You're not getting anything returned in the index on the word 'service'?
>> In the most recent update to BOL, the index returns the following choices
>> when SERVICE is the keyword.
>> service See services [Analysis Services]
>> service See services [Integration Services]
>> service See services [Notification Services]
>> service See services [Reporting Services]
>> service See services [Service Broker]
>> service See services [SQL Server]
>>
>> Or where you expecting to see something like this in the index?
>>
>> SERVICE
>>    ALTER
>>    CREATE
>>    DROP
>>
>> If so, we could consider doing that in a future update, but for now you
>> would be better off using more complete phrases in the index like 'CREATE
>> SERVICE' or 'DROP SERVICE'.
>>
>>> Why isn't SERVICE in the list of T-SQL reserved words in BOL 2005?  (I
>>> guess it's not a reserved word even though it gets colored blue.)
>> It probably should be. I've filed a doc bug for this issue. Thanks for
>> reporting this.
>>
>>> And why, if anyone knows, does sending feedback on BOL 2005 fail with:
>>>
>>> <sqldo***@microsoft.com>:
>>> 205.248.106.30 does not like recipient.
>>> Remote host said: 550 5.1.1 User unknown
>>
>> I suspect this is a transient error, but I've forwarded your e-mail to
>> the appropriate team for further evaluation.
>>
>> --
>> Gail Erickson [MS]
>> SQL Server Documentation Team
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights
>> Download the latest version of Books Online from
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sql/2005/downloads/books.mspx
>>
>>
>> "DWalker" <n***@none.com> wrote in message
>> news:edo4A2g$GHA.1556@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> "Arnie Rowland" <ar***@1568.com> wrote in
>>> news:OvVsbCT$GHA.3260@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
>>>
>>>> [Service] is an object that you can create, drop, and use. Therefore
>>>> it is also a T-SQL keyword.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Where is this documented? Why doesn't the word SERVICE have an index
>>> entry
>>> in BOL 2005?
>>>
>>> Why isn't SERVICE in the list of T-SQL reserved words in BOL 2005?  (I
>>> guess it's not a reserved word even though it gets colored blue.)
>>>
>>> And why, if anyone knows, does sending feedback on BOL 2005 fail with:
>>>
>>> <sqldo***@microsoft.com>:
>>> 205.248.106.30 does not like recipient.
>>> Remote host said: 550 5.1.1 User unknown
>>>
>>> ???
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> David
>>
>>
>
Author
3 Nov 2006 11:30 PM
DWalker
"Gail Erickson [MS]" <ga***@online.microsoft.com> wrote in
news:e0CELaq$GHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

>> You might want to cancel that. SERVICE isn't a keyword (*) and it is
>> SSMS that has it the wrong way.
>
> Thanks Tibor.  My follow-up investigation arrived at the same
> conclusion :>)
>

Yes, this is all quite confusing.  It's just odd to see things that are
colored blue in the syntax diagram, and I start wondering whether I should
not use the word SERVICE as a table name.

So I look in the list of reserved words... and I don't see that SERVICE is
reserved.  But it's obviously something...

Yes, I saw the list:

service See services [Analysis Services]
service See services [Integration Services]
service See services [Notification Services]
service See services [Reporting Services]
service See services [Service Broker]
service See services [SQL Server]

in the index, but following a link like "services [SQL server]" tells you
how to start and stop SQL server services.  The word SERVICE is not used.

I looked at a couple of others, and never saw the word SERVICE.  I must
have missed the [servioce broker] entry that shows CREATE SERVICE.

Thanks for all the replies.  I see it is not a well-settled area.

David
Author
3 Nov 2006 11:32 PM
DWalker
"Gail Erickson [MS]" <ga***@online.microsoft.com> wrote in
news:e0CELaq$GHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

>> You might want to cancel that. SERVICE isn't a keyword (*) and it is
>> SSMS that has it the wrong way.
>
> Thanks Tibor.  My follow-up investigation arrived at the same
> conclusion :>)
>

So it'll just stay wrong in SSMS?  Not a big deal, just something that I
will be aware of.

Thanks.

David
Author
2 Nov 2006 10:33 PM
Erland Sommarskog
Tibor Karaszi (tibor_please.no.email_kara***@hotmail.nomail.com) writes:
> You might want to cancel that. SERVICE isn't a keyword (*) and it is
> SSMS that has it the wrong way. Check out Roger Wolters book on SB, page
> 59-60

It's out? Why didn't anyone tell me? Where is the nearest bookstore?

> the new language constructs aren't actually keywords. SEND and RECEIVE but
> SERVICE seems to be in that category.
>...
> (*) One could of course get into the debate of what a keyword really is.

I would call them "unreserved keywords". That is, tokens that still are
legal as identifiers. T-SQL is completely diluted with them. And it's
nothing that started with SQL 2005. A very old one is OUTPUT.

An editor that is not syntax-aware does of course have the ghost of the
chance of getting it right. The best is probably to colour, unless the
keyword is really obscure.

--
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esq***@sommarskog.se

Books Online for SQL Server 2005 at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sql/2005/downloads/books.mspx
Books Online for SQL Server 2000 at
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinfo/previousversions/books.mspx
Author
3 Nov 2006 8:33 AM
Tibor Karaszi
>> (*) One could of course get into the debate of what a keyword really is.
>
> I would call them "unreserved keywords". That is, tokens that still are
> legal as identifiers. T-SQL is completely diluted with them. And it's
> nothing that started with SQL 2005.

Yepp, I know that SQL Server is confusing here. When I started to write that reply, I thought about
Roger's comment that they avoided making some new SB command elements into keywords. As I wrote, I
just remembered that there exists many things in TSQL which actually are documented as keywords, but
still work as unqualified identifiers. This is why I made the (*) remark, with suggestion for Gail
to investigate further.

Seems we have several categories here (first, a keyword can be TSQL, ODBC, ANSI and/or Future):

Documented keywords, that need to be delimited. (SELECT)
Documented keywords, that don't need to be delimited. (I thought that USER_NAME was such an example,
but I now see it isn't documented as a keyword. Perhaps there are no such examples?)
Words not documented as keywords but that need to be delimited (I don't know if such exists, but it
is a possibility)
Words not documented as keywords, but are language constructs (like RECEIVE), that don't need to be
delimited

Then we have the section about future reserved words. I guess that many (most/all?) of these work as
non-delimited identifiers, but that can break in future version.

So the big questions is now what the GUI tools should syntax color for...
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"Erland Sommarskog" <esq***@sommarskog.se> wrote in message
news:Xns986FEF613F15BYazorman@127.0.0.1...
> Tibor Karaszi (tibor_please.no.email_kara***@hotmail.nomail.com) writes:
>> You might want to cancel that. SERVICE isn't a keyword (*) and it is
>> SSMS that has it the wrong way. Check out Roger Wolters book on SB, page
>> 59-60
>
> It's out? Why didn't anyone tell me? Where is the nearest bookstore?
>
>> the new language constructs aren't actually keywords. SEND and RECEIVE but
>> SERVICE seems to be in that category.
>>...
>> (*) One could of course get into the debate of what a keyword really is.
>
> I would call them "unreserved keywords". That is, tokens that still are
> legal as identifiers. T-SQL is completely diluted with them. And it's
> nothing that started with SQL 2005. A very old one is OUTPUT.
>
> An editor that is not syntax-aware does of course have the ghost of the
> chance of getting it right. The best is probably to colour, unless the
> keyword is really obscure.
>
> --
> Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esq***@sommarskog.se
>
> Books Online for SQL Server 2005 at
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sql/2005/downloads/books.mspx
> Books Online for SQL Server 2000 at
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinfo/previousversions/books.mspx
Author
3 Nov 2006 12:40 AM
Aaron Bertrand [SQL Server MVP]
> You might want to cancel that. SERVICE isn't a keyword (*) and it is SSMS
> that has it the wrong way.

Along similar lines, I find it interesting that precision lights up in blue,
but scale does not.
Author
3 Nov 2006 8:53 AM
Erland Sommarskog
Aaron Bertrand [SQL Server MVP] (ten.xoc@dnartreb.noraa) writes:
>> You might want to cancel that. SERVICE isn't a keyword (*) and it is SSMS
>> that has it the wrong way.
>
> Along similar lines, I find it interesting that precision lights up in
> blue, but scale does not.

  declare @x double precision
  select @x = pi()



--
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esq***@sommarskog.se

Books Online for SQL Server 2005 at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sql/2005/downloads/books.mspx
Books Online for SQL Server 2000 at
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinfo/previousversions/books.mspx
Author
2 Nov 2006 12:03 AM
Arnie Rowland
Why, why why...

Why do you assume that it is not documented in Books Online?
Why don't you notice that there are many index entries for SERVICE in Books
Online?
Why don't you look up SERVICE in Books Online?
Why not hone in on 'SERVICE class'?
Why not read further in Books Online about the 'SERVICE class'?
Why is it not on the Reserved Word list? (I don't know -there are many
mysteries in life...)

Why does my sending Feedback on BOL work and your attempt Fail?

And Why am I responding with so many Whys? (I don't know, it just hit me
that way...)

Why?

--
Arnie Rowland, Ph.D.
Westwood Consulting, Inc

Most good judgment comes from experience.
Most experience comes from bad judgment.
- Anonymous

You can't help someone get up a hill without getting a little closer to the
top yourself.
- H. Norman Schwarzkopf


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"DWalker" <n***@none.com> wrote in message
news:edo4A2g$GHA.1556@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> "Arnie Rowland" <ar***@1568.com> wrote in
> news:OvVsbCT$GHA.3260@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
>
>> [Service] is an object that you can create, drop, and use. Therefore
>> it is also a T-SQL keyword.
>>
>
> Where is this documented? Why doesn't the word SERVICE have an index entry
> in BOL 2005?
>
> Why isn't SERVICE in the list of T-SQL reserved words in BOL 2005?  (I
> guess it's not a reserved word even though it gets colored blue.)
>
> And why, if anyone knows, does sending feedback on BOL 2005 fail with:
>
> <sqldo***@microsoft.com>:
> 205.248.106.30 does not like recipient.
> Remote host said: 550 5.1.1 User unknown
>
> ???
>
> Thanks.
>
> David
Author
2 Nov 2006 4:04 AM
Roy Harvey
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 16:03:51 -0800, "Arnie Rowland" <ar***@1568.com>
wrote:

>Why does my sending Feedback on BOL work and your attempt Fail?

In my case because I don't use a Microsoft email client, or anything
like one.  If I want to provide feedback I have to find the matching
page on the web copy of the docs and add my feedback there.

Roy
Author
2 Nov 2006 10:38 PM
Erland Sommarskog
Roy Harvey (roy_har***@snet.net) writes:
> In my case because I don't use a Microsoft email client, or anything
> like one.  If I want to provide feedback I have to find the matching
> page on the web copy of the docs and add my feedback there.

I would expect that if you have defined another mailer as the default,
that it Books Online would use that mailer. Else, I would consider it a
bug.

And if you use a non-Windows mailer, you would still have Outlook Express
on the machine, so you could click the button to get the subject line,
and then cut and paste. This is what I usually do. I use Outlook Express
for my POP mailbox, for the simple reason I use that mailbox so rarely,
that I haven't to find anything better. For my regular mail, I use a
very plain mail reader on Unix.

--
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esq***@sommarskog.se

Books Online for SQL Server 2005 at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sql/2005/downloads/books.mspx
Books Online for SQL Server 2000 at
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinfo/previousversions/books.mspx
Author
3 Nov 2006 11:31 PM
DWalker
Erland Sommarskog <esq***@sommarskog.se> wrote in
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news:Xns986FF03D5A560Yazorman@127.0.0.1:

> Roy Harvey (roy_har***@snet.net) writes:
>> In my case because I don't use a Microsoft email client, or anything
>> like one.  If I want to provide feedback I have to find the matching
>> page on the web copy of the docs and add my feedback there.
>
> I would expect that if you have defined another mailer as the default,
> that it Books Online would use that mailer. Else, I would consider it a
> bug.
>
> And if you use a non-Windows mailer, you would still have Outlook Express
> on the machine, so you could click the button to get the subject line,
> and then cut and paste. This is what I usually do. I use Outlook Express
> for my POP mailbox, for the simple reason I use that mailbox so rarely,
> that I haven't to find anything better. For my regular mail, I use a
> very plain mail reader on Unix.
>

My attempts to send feedback worked after a couple of days.  The sending
wasn't the problem; the e-mail message got to a Microsoft server which
rejected the message with a "no such e-mail account" message.

David
Author
4 Nov 2006 2:23 AM
Roy Harvey
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 22:38:38 +0000 (UTC), Erland Sommarskog
<esq***@sommarskog.se> wrote:

>... you would still have Outlook Express on the machine...

If so, Erland, it is only because I have failed in my attempts to
stamp it out.  And it would also mean Microsoft is lying to me, as the
Add/Remove Windows Components list shows that box as not checked.

Even if it were there, I would NOT tell it my email address or
anything else.  I suppose I am paranoid, but just as I will not use
Internet Explorer (except to run Windows Update) I simply do not trust
any version of Outlook.  There is just too long a history of exploits,
and too many nasty bits of software out there know to look for Outlook
and what it stores.

But that is just me.

Roy
Author
4 Nov 2006 11:34 AM
Erland Sommarskog
Roy Harvey (roy_har***@snet.net) writes:
Show quote
>>... you would still have Outlook Express on the machine...
>
> If so, Erland, it is only because I have failed in my attempts to
> stamp it out.  And it would also mean Microsoft is lying to me, as the
> Add/Remove Windows Components list shows that box as not checked.
>
> Even if it were there, I would NOT tell it my email address or
> anything else.  I suppose I am paranoid, but just as I will not use
> Internet Explorer (except to run Windows Update) I simply do not trust
> any version of Outlook.  There is just too long a history of exploits,
> and too many nasty bits of software out there know to look for Outlook
> and what it stores.
>
> But that is just me.

Nah, not only. I only use Internet Explorer locally, mainly to see that
my web pages display properly in it. Since I run ZoneAlarm, it would tell
me if tries to go outside of the machine, and I about never permit it.

Not only does IE make me nervous, it's also an inferior browser to
Opera and Firefox. Or was. Automatic Updates alerted me that IE7 was
available, but it appears that the download is still inhibited due to a
regulation. In any case, I'm not holding my breath.


--
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esq***@sommarskog.se

Books Online for SQL Server 2005 at
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3 Nov 2006 11:29 PM
DWalker
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"Arnie Rowland" <ar***@1568.com> wrote in
news:ePQthJh$GHA.5068@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

> Why, why why...
>
> Why do you assume that it is not documented in Books Online?
> Why don't you notice that there are many index entries for SERVICE in
> Books Online?
> Why don't you look up SERVICE in Books Online?
> Why not hone in on 'SERVICE class'?
> Why not read further in Books Online about the 'SERVICE class'?
> Why is it not on the Reserved Word list? (I don't know -there are many
> mysteries in life...)
>
> Why does my sending Feedback on BOL work and your attempt Fail?
>
> And Why am I responding with so many Whys? (I don't know, it just hit
> me that way...)
>
> Why?
>

I did NOT assume it was not documented in BOL, I looked in BOL first.  The
word SERVICE applies to many things, such as "starting and stopping SQL
services", which as discussed elsewhere doesn't involve the word SERVICE.

I looked at several of those entries, and none of them that I looked at
actually used the word SERVICE.  Now I found one, though (under Service
Broker: CREATE SERVICE.

I didn't hone in on the Service class...  Why should I hone in there rather
than on some other "See Also" entry?

And, I don't use the Service class in T-SQL!  Maybe if I were writing a VB
or C++ procedure or query, but I'm not.

My sending feedback finally worked after a couple of days.

It should be listed in the reserved word list if it's a reserved word.  If
it's not, then maybe it shouldn't be colored...  There IS a list of "future
reserved" words in BOL under Reserved Words [SQL Server].

David

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