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Bug in Enterprise Manager (SQL 2000)

Author
11 Sep 2006 11:58 AM
Herbert Schroder
I have installed  Enterprise Manager ver 8.0 (SQL 2000) and installed SP4.

Using Enterprise Manager I manually typed in the Query
(Action >  Open Table > Query)

select * from syscomments
where text like '%COA%'

Currently  this gives me three records with the field [text]  shown as empty

I used the same query in Query Analyser and the [text] field now has data.

Can someone  please explain this?
How do I fix this?

Author
11 Sep 2006 12:04 PM
Robert Klemme
On 11.09.2006 13:58, Herbert Schroder wrote:
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> I have installed  Enterprise Manager ver 8.0 (SQL 2000) and installed SP4.
>
> Using Enterprise Manager I manually typed in the Query
> (Action >  Open Table > Query)
>
> select * from syscomments
> where text like '%COA%'
>
> Currently  this gives me three records with the field [text]  shown as empty
>
> I used the same query in Query Analyser and the [text] field now has data.
>
> Can someone  please explain this?
> How do I fix this?
>

Different user?  Different database?

    robert
Author
11 Sep 2006 12:13 PM
Herbert Schroder
Hi Robert
Same User, same PC , same Database

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"Robert Klemme" wrote:

> On 11.09.2006 13:58, Herbert Schroder wrote:
> > I have installed  Enterprise Manager ver 8.0 (SQL 2000) and installed SP4.
> >
> > Using Enterprise Manager I manually typed in the Query
> > (Action >  Open Table > Query)
> >
> > select * from syscomments
> > where text like '%COA%'
> >
> > Currently  this gives me three records with the field [text]  shown as empty
> >
> > I used the same query in Query Analyser and the [text] field now has data.
> >
> > Can someone  please explain this?
> > How do I fix this?
> >
>
> Different user?  Different database?
>
>     robert
>
Author
11 Sep 2006 1:02 PM
Robert Klemme
On 11.09.2006 14:13, Herbert Schroder wrote:
> Hi Robert
> Same User, same PC , same Database

Maybe a limit on the column width.  Try to query the large column with
LEFT to truncate long values.

Generally EM is not a great tool for dealing with DML and data.  I'd use
QA for that anyway.

Kind regards

    robert
Author
11 Sep 2006 1:34 PM
Herbert Schroder
Thanks For the response Robert and Hari

I have just tried the identical query  on another workstation and there it
worked 100% both in Enterprise Manager as well as Query Analyser  - as far as
I can see there are no differences between this second workstation and mine.

The reason why I like using the Enterprise Manager for this query, is that
you can expand the width of the  row and thereby see all the text ( In this
case Stored Procedure)

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"Robert Klemme" wrote:

> On 11.09.2006 14:13, Herbert Schroder wrote:
> > Hi Robert
> > Same User, same PC , same Database
>
> Maybe a limit on the column width.  Try to query the large column with
> LEFT to truncate long values.
>
> Generally EM is not a great tool for dealing with DML and data.  I'd use
> QA for that anyway.
>
> Kind regards
>
>     robert
>
Author
11 Sep 2006 4:12 PM
Arnie Rowland
When using Query Analyzer, go to the [Tools] menu, select [Option], then
[Results] and change the [Maximum Characters per Column] in order to be able
to see the entire column for wide columns.

And EM is 'unreliable' for a data manipulation tool. QA is the best tool for
the job.

--
Arnie Rowland, Ph.D.
Westwood Consulting, Inc

Most good judgment comes from experience.
Most experience comes from bad judgment.
- Anonymous


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"Herbert Schroder" <HerbertSchro***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:11EE54BD-7708-4933-8474-F5EE860B2221@microsoft.com...
> Thanks For the response Robert and Hari
>
> I have just tried the identical query  on another workstation and there it
> worked 100% both in Enterprise Manager as well as Query Analyser  - as far
> as
> I can see there are no differences between this second workstation and
> mine.
>
> The reason why I like using the Enterprise Manager for this query, is that
> you can expand the width of the  row and thereby see all the text ( In
> this
> case Stored Procedure)
>
> "Robert Klemme" wrote:
>
>> On 11.09.2006 14:13, Herbert Schroder wrote:
>> > Hi Robert
>> > Same User, same PC , same Database
>>
>> Maybe a limit on the column width.  Try to query the large column with
>> LEFT to truncate long values.
>>
>> Generally EM is not a great tool for dealing with DML and data.  I'd use
>> QA for that anyway.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> robert
>>
Author
11 Sep 2006 4:27 PM
Herbert Schroder
Hi Arnie

Thanks my QA works fine and judging by the response, I guess I will just
have to "accept" that I'm stuck with this problem  regarding EM.
I must say however it is highly frustrating to see this working on other
workstations and not mine!

Regards
Herbert

Show quote
"Arnie Rowland" wrote:

> When using Query Analyzer, go to the [Tools] menu, select [Option], then
> [Results] and change the [Maximum Characters per Column] in order to be able
> to see the entire column for wide columns.
>
> And EM is 'unreliable' for a data manipulation tool. QA is the best tool for
> the job.
>
> --
> Arnie Rowland, Ph.D.
> Westwood Consulting, Inc
>
> Most good judgment comes from experience.
> Most experience comes from bad judgment.
> - Anonymous
>
>
> "Herbert Schroder" <HerbertSchro***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:11EE54BD-7708-4933-8474-F5EE860B2221@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks For the response Robert and Hari
> >
> > I have just tried the identical query  on another workstation and there it
> > worked 100% both in Enterprise Manager as well as Query Analyser  - as far
> > as
> > I can see there are no differences between this second workstation and
> > mine.
> >
> > The reason why I like using the Enterprise Manager for this query, is that
> > you can expand the width of the  row and thereby see all the text ( In
> > this
> > case Stored Procedure)
> >
> > "Robert Klemme" wrote:
> >
> >> On 11.09.2006 14:13, Herbert Schroder wrote:
> >> > Hi Robert
> >> > Same User, same PC , same Database
> >>
> >> Maybe a limit on the column width.  Try to query the large column with
> >> LEFT to truncate long values.
> >>
> >> Generally EM is not a great tool for dealing with DML and data.  I'd use
> >> QA for that anyway.
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >>
> >> robert
> >>
>
>
>
Author
11 Sep 2006 4:52 PM
Arnie Rowland
There is an small possibility that this may be related to memory issues. You
might reboot to clear you system's memory -this is just a 'wag'.

--
Arnie Rowland, Ph.D.
Westwood Consulting, Inc

Most good judgment comes from experience.
Most experience comes from bad judgment.
- Anonymous


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"Herbert Schroder" <HerbertSchro***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:B68119F6-8974-4C6E-B775-1AD0C1185730@microsoft.com...
> Hi Arnie
>
> Thanks my QA works fine and judging by the response, I guess I will just
> have to "accept" that I'm stuck with this problem  regarding EM.
> I must say however it is highly frustrating to see this working on other
> workstations and not mine!
>
> Regards
> Herbert
>
> "Arnie Rowland" wrote:
>
>> When using Query Analyzer, go to the [Tools] menu, select [Option], then
>> [Results] and change the [Maximum Characters per Column] in order to be
>> able
>> to see the entire column for wide columns.
>>
>> And EM is 'unreliable' for a data manipulation tool. QA is the best tool
>> for
>> the job.
>>
>> --
>> Arnie Rowland, Ph.D.
>> Westwood Consulting, Inc
>>
>> Most good judgment comes from experience.
>> Most experience comes from bad judgment.
>> - Anonymous
>>
>>
>> "Herbert Schroder" <HerbertSchro***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:11EE54BD-7708-4933-8474-F5EE860B2221@microsoft.com...
>> > Thanks For the response Robert and Hari
>> >
>> > I have just tried the identical query  on another workstation and there
>> > it
>> > worked 100% both in Enterprise Manager as well as Query Analyser  - as
>> > far
>> > as
>> > I can see there are no differences between this second workstation and
>> > mine.
>> >
>> > The reason why I like using the Enterprise Manager for this query, is
>> > that
>> > you can expand the width of the  row and thereby see all the text ( In
>> > this
>> > case Stored Procedure)
>> >
>> > "Robert Klemme" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 11.09.2006 14:13, Herbert Schroder wrote:
>> >> > Hi Robert
>> >> > Same User, same PC , same Database
>> >>
>> >> Maybe a limit on the column width.  Try to query the large column with
>> >> LEFT to truncate long values.
>> >>
>> >> Generally EM is not a great tool for dealing with DML and data.  I'd
>> >> use
>> >> QA for that anyway.
>> >>
>> >> Kind regards
>> >>
>> >> robert
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
Author
11 Sep 2006 5:01 PM
Herbert Schroder
Hi Arnie

Nope already tried that.

Show quote
"Arnie Rowland" wrote:

> There is an small possibility that this may be related to memory issues. You
> might reboot to clear you system's memory -this is just a 'wag'.
>
> --
> Arnie Rowland, Ph.D.
> Westwood Consulting, Inc
>
> Most good judgment comes from experience.
> Most experience comes from bad judgment.
> - Anonymous
>
>
> "Herbert Schroder" <HerbertSchro***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:B68119F6-8974-4C6E-B775-1AD0C1185730@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Arnie
> >
> > Thanks my QA works fine and judging by the response, I guess I will just
> > have to "accept" that I'm stuck with this problem  regarding EM.
> > I must say however it is highly frustrating to see this working on other
> > workstations and not mine!
> >
> > Regards
> > Herbert
> >
> > "Arnie Rowland" wrote:
> >
> >> When using Query Analyzer, go to the [Tools] menu, select [Option], then
> >> [Results] and change the [Maximum Characters per Column] in order to be
> >> able
> >> to see the entire column for wide columns.
> >>
> >> And EM is 'unreliable' for a data manipulation tool. QA is the best tool
> >> for
> >> the job.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Arnie Rowland, Ph.D.
> >> Westwood Consulting, Inc
> >>
> >> Most good judgment comes from experience.
> >> Most experience comes from bad judgment.
> >> - Anonymous
> >>
> >>
> >> "Herbert Schroder" <HerbertSchro***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message news:11EE54BD-7708-4933-8474-F5EE860B2221@microsoft.com...
> >> > Thanks For the response Robert and Hari
> >> >
> >> > I have just tried the identical query  on another workstation and there
> >> > it
> >> > worked 100% both in Enterprise Manager as well as Query Analyser  - as
> >> > far
> >> > as
> >> > I can see there are no differences between this second workstation and
> >> > mine.
> >> >
> >> > The reason why I like using the Enterprise Manager for this query, is
> >> > that
> >> > you can expand the width of the  row and thereby see all the text ( In
> >> > this
> >> > case Stored Procedure)
> >> >
> >> > "Robert Klemme" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 11.09.2006 14:13, Herbert Schroder wrote:
> >> >> > Hi Robert
> >> >> > Same User, same PC , same Database
> >> >>
> >> >> Maybe a limit on the column width.  Try to query the large column with
> >> >> LEFT to truncate long values.
> >> >>
> >> >> Generally EM is not a great tool for dealing with DML and data.  I'd
> >> >> use
> >> >> QA for that anyway.
> >> >>
> >> >> Kind regards
> >> >>
> >> >> robert
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
Author
11 Sep 2006 12:55 PM
Hari Prasad
Hi,

Probably enterprise manager should be having issue with displaying big
texts. So identify the object and thne use sp_helptext to display...

select object_name(id) from syscomments
where text like  '%COA%'

This will give you the object which contains text COA. After that use the
sp_helptext.

The above command must work in enterprise manager as well..

Thanks
Hari
SQL Server MVP



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"Robert Klemme" <shortcut***@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:e%23zoBqZ1GHA.1256@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> On 11.09.2006 13:58, Herbert Schroder wrote:
>> I have installed  Enterprise Manager ver 8.0 (SQL 2000) and installed
>> SP4.
>>
>> Using Enterprise Manager I manually typed in the Query (Action >  Open
>> Table > Query)
>>
>> select * from syscomments where text like '%COA%' Currently  this gives
>> me three records with the field [text]  shown as empty
>>
>> I used the same query in Query Analyser and the [text] field now has
>> data.
>>
>> Can someone  please explain this? How do I fix this?
>>
>
> Different user?  Different database?
>
> robert

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