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Why is SQL Server 2005 Management Studio so slow?

Author
25 Jan 2006 10:15 PM
Ade
I am in the process of evaluating SQL Server 2005 (Developer Edition) on a
Windows 2000 SP4 member server in a Windows NT domain with three domain
controllers (not active directory).  I have installed both operating system
and SQL server software from scratch and succeeded at the second attempt. 
The hardware is a P4 2GHz, 1Gbyte RAM and a 40Gbyte disk PC. 

When I start the Management Studio on the server, it takes roughly about 5
minutes before it opens up and another few minutes to connect.  Task manager
tells me that there is plenty of physical memory available and CPU usage is
low so what is it doing?  Network Access?  Is it looking for an Active
Directory Domain Controller?


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Ade

Author
25 Jan 2006 11:05 PM
Erland Sommarskog
Ade (aah@nospam.nospam) writes:
> I am in the process of evaluating SQL Server 2005 (Developer Edition) on
> a Windows 2000 SP4 member server in a Windows NT domain with three
> domain controllers (not active directory).  I have installed both
> operating system and SQL server software from scratch and succeeded at
> the second attempt.  The hardware is a P4 2GHz, 1Gbyte RAM and a 40Gbyte
> disk PC. 
>
> When I start the Management Studio on the server, it takes roughly about
> 5 minutes before it opens up and another few minutes to connect.  Task
> manager tells me that there is plenty of physical memory available and
> CPU usage is low so what is it doing?  Network Access?  Is it looking
> for an Active Directory Domain Controller?

Five minutes each time? The first startup takes longer time. And certainly
Mgmt Studio takes longer time to start than QA, but five minutes?

The only thing I can think of is that it's looking for the status of
registered servers that are not available.


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Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esq***@sommarskog.se

Books Online for SQL Server 2005 at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sql/2005/downloads/books.mspx
Books Online for SQL Server 2000 at
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinfo/previousversions/books.mspx
Author
26 Jan 2006 11:30 AM
Ade
Erland, thanks for replying.  If it is looking for the status of registered
servers, how can I stop it doing this?  This is the only SQL Server 2005
server on our LAN.  There are other SQL Servers on our LAN (6.5 & 7.0 and
possibly MSDEs), is it trying to determine the status of these?

The other thing that occurred to me is that our Firewall does not allow
browsing or access to the Internet from our servers.  Could it be trying to
access the Internet?  If I try and access the Internet via IE, there is a
very long delay before IE reports an error that it could not open the search
page.  Is there a link? If so, how do I stop it trying to access the Internet?

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Ade


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"Erland Sommarskog" wrote:

> Ade (aah@nospam.nospam) writes:
> > I am in the process of evaluating SQL Server 2005 (Developer Edition) on
> > a Windows 2000 SP4 member server in a Windows NT domain with three
> > domain controllers (not active directory).  I have installed both
> > operating system and SQL server software from scratch and succeeded at
> > the second attempt.  The hardware is a P4 2GHz, 1Gbyte RAM and a 40Gbyte
> > disk PC. 
> >
> > When I start the Management Studio on the server, it takes roughly about
> > 5 minutes before it opens up and another few minutes to connect.  Task
> > manager tells me that there is plenty of physical memory available and
> > CPU usage is low so what is it doing?  Network Access?  Is it looking
> > for an Active Directory Domain Controller?
>
> Five minutes each time? The first startup takes longer time. And certainly
> Mgmt Studio takes longer time to start than QA, but five minutes?
>
> The only thing I can think of is that it's looking for the status of
> registered servers that are not available.
>
>
> --
> Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esq***@sommarskog.se
>
> Books Online for SQL Server 2005 at
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sql/2005/downloads/books.mspx
> Books Online for SQL Server 2000 at
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinfo/previousversions/books.mspx
>
Author
27 Jan 2006 11:24 PM
Erland Sommarskog
Ade (aah@nospam.nospam) writes:
> Erland, thanks for replying.  If it is looking for the status of
> registered servers, how can I stop it doing this?  This is the only SQL
> Server 2005 server on our LAN.  There are other SQL Servers on our LAN
> (6.5 & 7.0 and possibly MSDEs), is it trying to determine the status of
> these?

It should track the servers that you see in the window Registered
Services, but no other.

> The other thing that occurred to me is that our Firewall does not allow
> browsing or access to the Internet from our servers.  Could it be trying
> to access the Internet?  If I try and access the Internet via IE, there
> is a very long delay before IE reports an error that it could not open
> the search page.  Is there a link? If so, how do I stop it trying to
> access the Internet?

If Mgmt Studio would attempt to access the Internet, I should have noticed
as I run ZoneAlarm to monitor outgoing traffic. (Books Online on the
other hand attempts to call home when you start it.)




--
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esq***@sommarskog.se

Books Online for SQL Server 2005 at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sql/2005/downloads/books.mspx
Books Online for SQL Server 2000 at
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinfo/previousversions/books.mspx
Author
28 Jan 2006 1:20 PM
Ade
It is.  I now have it working properly.  By insisting on a proxy for internet
connections and changing the default gateway of the server, control is
returned straight back to IE (and therefore Mgmt Studio).  Also proved it by
allowing access to the internet temporarily and there it was in the firewall
log, a connection from the server to a Microsoft IP address (Autoupdate is
turned off by the way).  Perhaps its not be doing it directly hence ZoneAlarm
not picking it up.
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Ade


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"Erland Sommarskog" wrote:

> Ade (aah@nospam.nospam) writes:
> > Erland, thanks for replying.  If it is looking for the status of
> > registered servers, how can I stop it doing this?  This is the only SQL
> > Server 2005 server on our LAN.  There are other SQL Servers on our LAN
> > (6.5 & 7.0 and possibly MSDEs), is it trying to determine the status of
> > these?
>
> It should track the servers that you see in the window Registered
> Services, but no other.
>
> > The other thing that occurred to me is that our Firewall does not allow
> > browsing or access to the Internet from our servers.  Could it be trying
> > to access the Internet?  If I try and access the Internet via IE, there
> > is a very long delay before IE reports an error that it could not open
> > the search page.  Is there a link? If so, how do I stop it trying to
> > access the Internet?

> If Mgmt Studio would attempt to access the Internet, I should have noticed
> as I run ZoneAlarm to monitor outgoing traffic. (Books Online on the
> other hand attempts to call home when you start it.)
>
>
>
>
> --
> Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esq***@sommarskog.se
>
> Books Online for SQL Server 2005 at
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sql/2005/downloads/books.mspx
> Books Online for SQL Server 2000 at
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinfo/previousversions/books.mspx
>
Author
28 Jan 2006 7:50 PM
Erland Sommarskog
Ade (aah@nospam.nospam) writes:
> It is.  I now have it working properly.  By insisting on a proxy for
> internet connections and changing the default gateway of the server,
> control is returned straight back to IE (and therefore Mgmt Studio).
> Also proved it by allowing access to the internet temporarily and there
> it was in the firewall log, a connection from the server to a Microsoft
> IP address (Autoupdate is turned off by the way).  Perhaps its not be
> doing it directly hence ZoneAlarm not picking it up.

Glad to hear that you got it working.

In the SQL 2005 Program group, there is a folder Configuration Tools,
and there is one program "Error and Usage Report Settings". Do you by
chance have "Send feature usage reports for all components..." checked?


--
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esq***@sommarskog.se

Books Online for SQL Server 2005 at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sql/2005/downloads/books.mspx
Books Online for SQL Server 2000 at
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinfo/previousversions/books.mspx
Author
30 Jan 2006 1:22 PM
Ade
No

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Ade


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"Erland Sommarskog" wrote:

> Ade (aah@nospam.nospam) writes:
> > It is.  I now have it working properly.  By insisting on a proxy for
> > internet connections and changing the default gateway of the server,
> > control is returned straight back to IE (and therefore Mgmt Studio).
> > Also proved it by allowing access to the internet temporarily and there
> > it was in the firewall log, a connection from the server to a Microsoft
> > IP address (Autoupdate is turned off by the way).  Perhaps its not be
> > doing it directly hence ZoneAlarm not picking it up.
>
> Glad to hear that you got it working.
>
> In the SQL 2005 Program group, there is a folder Configuration Tools,
> and there is one program "Error and Usage Report Settings". Do you by
> chance have "Send feature usage reports for all components..." checked?
>
>
> --
> Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esq***@sommarskog.se
>
> Books Online for SQL Server 2005 at
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sql/2005/downloads/books.mspx
> Books Online for SQL Server 2000 at
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinfo/previousversions/books.mspx
>

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