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VB.NET - .NET framevork, and unit testing book recommendation needed!

Author
29 Oct 2007 9:06 PM
gamesforums
Hi!

I've been programming in VB.Net and done testing with TypeMock and
MbUnit (Testdriven.net) for about 2months now at work. I can see that
my testing skills and particular my knowledge about the .NET framework
is far too weak. Far to often I choose to implement custom stuff
that's already available to me from the framework, or I use the wrong
stuff from the framework. Also I feel that the whole concept of Object
Oriented Programming is a bit vague to me, and often i dont know what
to test and why!

One of my solutions to this is to buy a few good books on the
different topics:

1. I need a book(s) that tells me about the framework, what is
available and what to use when. It's a positive if this also covers
the concept of Object Oriented Programming.

2. I need a book(s) that's covers testing, functional tests, a
positive if it's with TypeMock and MbUnit...

Please keep in mind that the books need to be at beginner level! So,
any recommendations out there? :)



Mcad

Author
29 Oct 2007 9:37 PM
sloan
I think this book is great;
http://www.pragprog.com/titles/utc2

But, its in C#.  So you'd have to decide if you can do the translation
stuff.

But I'd still pick this book if the vice-versa was true for me.  (Aka, I
code in C# (as I do) and the book was for VB.Net).
And I wouldn't say that about alot of books.





<gamesfor***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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news:1193691997.268365.235410@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Hi!
>
> I've been programming in VB.Net and done testing with TypeMock and
> MbUnit (Testdriven.net) for about 2months now at work. I can see that
> my testing skills and particular my knowledge about the .NET framework
> is far too weak. Far to often I choose to implement custom stuff
> that's already available to me from the framework, or I use the wrong
> stuff from the framework. Also I feel that the whole concept of Object
> Oriented Programming is a bit vague to me, and often i dont know what
> to test and why!
>
> One of my solutions to this is to buy a few good books on the
> different topics:
>
> 1. I need a book(s) that tells me about the framework, what is
> available and what to use when. It's a positive if this also covers
> the concept of Object Oriented Programming.
>
> 2. I need a book(s) that's covers testing, functional tests, a
> positive if it's with TypeMock and MbUnit...
>
> Please keep in mind that the books need to be at beginner level! So,
> any recommendations out there? :)
>
>
>
> Mcad
>
Author
30 Oct 2007 7:07 AM
Michael Nemtsev, MVP
Hello gamesfor***@hotmail.com,

I recommend to examine these articles

http://www.codeproject.com/csharp/autp1.asp
http://www.codeproject.com/csharp/autp1.asp
http://www.codeproject.com/csharp/autp1.asp

---
WBR,
Michael  Nemtsev [.NET/C# MVP] :: blog: http://spaces.live.com/laflour

"The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we
miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it" (c) Michelangelo


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> VB.Net and done testing with TypeMock and MbUnit (Testdriven.net) for
> about 2months now at work. I can see that my testing skills
>
Author
30 Oct 2007 12:21 PM
gamesforums
On Oct 30, 8:07 am, Michael Nemtsev, MVP <nemt***@msn.com> wrote:
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> Hello gamesfor***@hotmail.com,
>
> I recommend to examine these articles
>
> http://www.codeproject.com/csharp/autp1.asphttp://www.codeproject.com/csharp/autp1.asphttp://www.codeproject.com/csharp/autp1.asp
>
> ---
> WBR,
> Michael  Nemtsev [.NET/C# MVP] :: blog:http://spaces.live.com/laflour
>
> "The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we
> miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it" (c) Michelangelo
>
>
>
> > VB.Net and done testing with TypeMock and MbUnit (Testdriven.net) for
> > about 2months now at work. I can see that my testing skills- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanx for the codeproject link Michael, will defintly have a look at
that.

As for the books, they need to be VB books, we dont use C# at work..
and right now i dont want to get into the translation stuff before I
learn the basics in vb.net, .net framework and object oriented
thinking.

So, any book recommendations out there?
Author
31 Oct 2007 2:38 PM
sloan
My secondary advice is to not limit yourself to a language specific book.

I know you want an "exact hit", but sometimes it doesn't happen that way.

I have
C#
Java
Vb.Net
C++ (only a few)
SmallTalk

books sitting on my shelf.  I never program in java, work or hobby.  But I
have 2 java books that I wouldn't part with.

When you get to the next plateau of development, you stop caring as much
about the language of choice, and more about the concepts.
The Head First Design Patterns book is a great starter book.  The code in is
java, but ... it doesn't really matter.  The concepts are far more
important.

So maybe somone will suggest an "exact hit" book in vb.net about unit
testing.
However, don't dismiss a book simply because the language choice isn't an
exact hit.

IMHO, you will be hard pressed to find a book which is better (there may be
some equals) but better than the Pragmatic Programmer UnitTest book.

...


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> On Oct 30, 8:07 am, Michael Nemtsev, MVP <nemt***@msn.com> wrote:
>> Hello gamesfor***@hotmail.com,
>>
>> I recommend to examine these articles
>>
>> http://www.codeproject.com/csharp/autp1.asphttp://www.codeproject.com/csharp/autp1.asphttp://www.codeproject.com/csharp/autp1.asp
>>
>> ---
>> WBR,
>> Michael  Nemtsev [.NET/C# MVP] :: blog:http://spaces.live.com/laflour
>>
>> "The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and
>> we
>> miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it" (c) Michelangelo
>>
>>
>>
>> > VB.Net and done testing with TypeMock and MbUnit (Testdriven.net) for
>> > about 2months now at work. I can see that my testing skills- Hide
>> > quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Thanx for the codeproject link Michael, will defintly have a look at
> that.
>
> As for the books, they need to be VB books, we dont use C# at work..
> and right now i dont want to get into the translation stuff before I
> learn the basics in vb.net, .net framework and object oriented
> thinking.
>
> So, any book recommendations out there?
>
Author
1 Nov 2007 12:11 PM
Michael Nemtsev, MVP
Hello gamesfor***@hotmail.com,

I recommend to examine these articles

http://www.codeproject.com/csharp/autp1.asp
http://www.codeproject.com/csharp/autp2.asp
http://www.codeproject.com/csharp/autp3.asp
http://www.codeproject.com/csharp/autp4.asp
http://www.codeproject.com/gen/design/autp5.asp

---
WBR,
Michael  Nemtsev [.NET/C# MVP] :: blog: http://spaces.live.com/laflour

"The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we
miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it" (c) Michelangelo


Show quote
> VB.Net and done testing with TypeMock and MbUnit (Testdriven.net) for
> about 2months now at work. I can see that my testing skills
>

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