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VISTA and installing .NET 1.1

Author
7 May 2007 4:35 PM
Evan Camilleri
I have .NET 2.0 on a VISTA machine and am trying to install .NET 1.1

It is failing with the following error in Events Viewer:

Source:        MsiInstaller
Event ID:      1030
Description:
Product: Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1. The application tried to install a
more recent version of the protected Windows file
C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\sbs_wminet_utils.dll.  You may need to
update your operating system for this application to work correctly.
(Package Version: 1.0.0.0, Operating System Protected Version: 1.0.0.0).

Source:        MsiInstaller
Event ID:      1030
Description:
Product: Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1. The application tried to install a
more recent version of the protected Windows file
C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\sbs_system.enterpriseservices.dll.  You
may need to update your operating system for this application to work
correctly. (Package Version: 1.0.0.0, Operating System Protected Version:
1.0.0.0).

etc etc
why?

Author
7 May 2007 5:31 PM
Rory Becker
> I have .NET 2.0 on a VISTA machine and am trying to install .NET 1.1
>
> It is failing with the following error in Events Viewer:

<snip/>

> why?

You shouldn't need to install the 1.1 framework on Vista as it already has
the 3.0(2.0 + extras)  framework on it.

--
Rory
Author
8 May 2007 8:02 AM
Evan Camilleri
what if i want to continue developing a 1.1 application?!


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"Rory Becker" <RoryBecker@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
news:b0ac48a0c3c38c95eed187fb2b0@msnews.microsoft.com...
>> I have .NET 2.0 on a VISTA machine and am trying to install .NET 1.1
>>
>> It is failing with the following error in Events Viewer:
>
> <snip/>
>
>> why?
>
> You shouldn't need to install the 1.1 framework on Vista as it already has
> the 3.0(2.0 + extras)  framework on it.
>
> --
> Rory
>
>
Author
8 May 2007 9:47 AM
Rory Becker
> what if i want to continue developing a 1.1 application?!
>

VS2002 and VS2003 are completely unsupported on Vista.
VS2005 is sorta supported in that SP1 was largely designed to help with this
but can only help you write 2.0 applications out of the box.
VS2007(Orcas - Not yet released) is designed specifically for Vista and will
be able to specifically target 20,3.0 and 3.5 out of the box)

However, given enough memory, I've heard that running XP on a virtual machine
within vista works quite well. I understand that this is the best (and possibly
only) way to run previous versions of VS on Vista

--
Rory
Author
9 May 2007 5:50 AM
RobinS
That's only sort of  true. Visual Studio 2002/2003 are unsupported on
Vista, but you should still be able to run applications developed with them
on a Vista machine.

Robin S.
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"Rory Becker" <RoryBecker@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
news:b0ac48a0c49f8c95f756236e610@msnews.microsoft.com...
>> what if i want to continue developing a 1.1 application?!
>>
>
> VS2002 and VS2003 are completely unsupported on Vista.
> VS2005 is sorta supported in that SP1 was largely designed to help with
> this but can only help you write 2.0 applications out of the box.
> VS2007(Orcas - Not yet released) is designed specifically for Vista and
> will be able to specifically target 20,3.0 and 3.5 out of the box)
>
> However, given enough memory, I've heard that running XP on a virtual
> machine within vista works quite well. I understand that this is the best
> (and possibly only) way to run previous versions of VS on Vista
>
> --
> Rory
>
>
Author
9 May 2007 1:39 PM
Evan Camilleri
but i need vs2003 as i want to develop 1.1 app


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"RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
news:osKdnS-P9dWz_NzbnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> That's only sort of  true. Visual Studio 2002/2003 are unsupported on
> Vista, but you should still be able to run applications developed with
> them on a Vista machine.
>
> Robin S.
> --------------------------
> "Rory Becker" <RoryBecker@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
> news:b0ac48a0c49f8c95f756236e610@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>> what if i want to continue developing a 1.1 application?!
>>>
>>
>> VS2002 and VS2003 are completely unsupported on Vista.
>> VS2005 is sorta supported in that SP1 was largely designed to help with
>> this but can only help you write 2.0 applications out of the box.
>> VS2007(Orcas - Not yet released) is designed specifically for Vista and
>> will be able to specifically target 20,3.0 and 3.5 out of the box)
>>
>> However, given enough memory, I've heard that running XP on a virtual
>> machine within vista works quite well. I understand that this is the best
>> (and possibly only) way to run previous versions of VS on Vista
>>
>> --
>> Rory
>>
>>
>
>
Author
9 May 2007 1:40 PM
Evan Camilleri
will Orcas run on XP?


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"Rory Becker" <RoryBecker@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
news:b0ac48a0c49f8c95f756236e610@msnews.microsoft.com...
>> what if i want to continue developing a 1.1 application?!
>>
>
> VS2002 and VS2003 are completely unsupported on Vista.
> VS2005 is sorta supported in that SP1 was largely designed to help with
> this but can only help you write 2.0 applications out of the box.
> VS2007(Orcas - Not yet released) is designed specifically for Vista and
> will be able to specifically target 20,3.0 and 3.5 out of the box)
>
> However, given enough memory, I've heard that running XP on a virtual
> machine within vista works quite well. I understand that this is the best
> (and possibly only) way to run previous versions of VS on Vista
>
> --
> Rory
>
>
Author
9 May 2007 2:20 PM
Rory Becker
> will Orcas run on XP?
>

I have no concrete evidence but I would say yes.

I have previously run it in a virtual machine which was based on Server 2003
so I would think it does.

--
Rory
Author
8 May 2007 9:48 AM
oscar.acostamontesde@googlemail.com
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On May 8, 10:02 am, "Evan Camilleri" <e***@holisticrd.com.nospam>
wrote:
> what if i want to continue developing a 1.1 application?!
>
> "Rory Becker" <RoryBec...@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
>
> news:b0ac48a0c3c38c95eed187fb2b0@msnews.microsoft.com...
>
> >> I have .NET 2.0 on a VISTA machine and am trying to install .NET 1.1
>
> >> It is failing with the following error in Events Viewer:
>
> > <snip/>
>
> >> why?
>
> > You shouldn't need to install the 1.1 framework on Vista as it already has
> > the 3.0(2.0 + extras)  framework on it.
>
> > --
> > Rory

Don't use vista, it sucks.
Author
9 May 2007 1:39 PM
Evan Camilleri
it's the most intelligent thing to do... that's what i 'm doing


<oscar.acostamonte***@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> On May 8, 10:02 am, "Evan Camilleri" <e***@holisticrd.com.nospam>
> wrote:
>> what if i want to continue developing a 1.1 application?!
>>
>> "Rory Becker" <RoryBec...@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
>>
>> news:b0ac48a0c3c38c95eed187fb2b0@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>
>> >> I have .NET 2.0 on a VISTA machine and am trying to install .NET 1.1
>>
>> >> It is failing with the following error in Events Viewer:
>>
>> > <snip/>
>>
>> >> why?
>>
>> > You shouldn't need to install the 1.1 framework on Vista as it already
>> > has
>> > the 3.0(2.0 + extras)  framework on it.
>>
>> > --
>> > Rory
>
> Don't use vista, it sucks.
>
Author
9 May 2007 2:31 PM
Rory Becker
>> Don't use vista, it sucks.
>>
> it's the most intelligent thing to do... that's what i 'm doing

Well I'd have to counter that.

Some consider Vista a pain
Others consider it to require too much in the way of hardware to be worth
anything.
Some like it.

All are entitled to their opinion

But the truth is that it isn't going to go anywhere and to stick your head
in the sand and ignore it is not going to be a clever move for a developer
of any kind who works in the MS spaces.

I'm not trying to sugegst that Evan is about to do this and I appriciate
the need to continue programming in dotnet 1.1 as several companies (Mine
included ) have yet to actually make the jump to dotnet 2.0 or 3.0 (although
we are scheduled do that this month).

What I am going to do (as soon as funding permits) is to purchase the best
mahine available and run Vista.

On this machine I will
....run VS2005 + SP1
....run Orcas when it comes out
....run VS2003 in an XP VM for as long as I need to. (I have seen others manage
to do this very well indeed with no real loss of productivity)

.... and most importantly of all ...become familiar with the Vista environment
which as  I said... isn't going to go anywhere.

I welcome any sensible comment on this but I do believe that it's the best
way forward ( assuming that those wishing to follow said plan can afford
to purchase a reasonable enough machine)

--
Rory
Author
10 May 2007 10:13 AM
Evan Camilleri
The problem is that we have apps in 1.1, 2.0.  Some clients will not pay the
costs to move from 1.1 to 2.0 since for them they don't care!
In any case i will install XP as my normal PC and then try to use an
alternate PC to test VISTA till all works.  I agree that VISTA is the way
forward... but it's still in the first stages, lots of missing drivers, etc!

Evan


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"Rory Becker" <RoryBecker@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
news:b0ac48a0c80d8c960663aa7c910@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>> Don't use vista, it sucks.
>>>
>> it's the most intelligent thing to do... that's what i 'm doing
>
> Well I'd have to counter that.
>
> Some consider Vista a pain Others consider it to require too much in the
> way of hardware to be worth anything.
> Some like it.
>
> All are entitled to their opinion
>
> But the truth is that it isn't going to go anywhere and to stick your head
> in the sand and ignore it is not going to be a clever move for a developer
> of any kind who works in the MS spaces.
>
> I'm not trying to sugegst that Evan is about to do this and I appriciate
> the need to continue programming in dotnet 1.1 as several companies (Mine
> included ) have yet to actually make the jump to dotnet 2.0 or 3.0
> (although we are scheduled do that this month).
> What I am going to do (as soon as funding permits) is to purchase the best
> mahine available and run Vista.
>
> On this machine I will ...run VS2005 + SP1 ...run Orcas when it comes out
> ...run VS2003 in an XP VM for as long as I need to. (I have seen others
> manage to do this very well indeed with no real loss of productivity)
>
> ... and most importantly of all ...become familiar with the Vista
> environment which as  I said... isn't going to go anywhere.
>
> I welcome any sensible comment on this but I do believe that it's the best
> way forward ( assuming that those wishing to follow said plan can afford
> to purchase a reasonable enough machine)
>
> --
> Rory
>
>
>
Author
9 May 2007 12:28 AM
Lloyd Dupont
1.1 application run fin on the latest frameworks...
they are backward compatible...

--
Regards,
Lloyd Dupont
NovaMind Software
Mind Mapping at its best
www.nova-mind.com
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"Evan Camilleri" <e***@holisticrd.com.nospam> wrote in message
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> what if i want to continue developing a 1.1 application?!
>
>
> "Rory Becker" <RoryBecker@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
> news:b0ac48a0c3c38c95eed187fb2b0@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>> I have .NET 2.0 on a VISTA machine and am trying to install .NET 1.1
>>>
>>> It is failing with the following error in Events Viewer:
>>
>> <snip/>
>>
>>> why?
>>
>> You shouldn't need to install the 1.1 framework on Vista as it already
>> has the 3.0(2.0 + extras)  framework on it.
>>
>> --
>> Rory
>>
>>
>
Author
9 May 2007 1:38 PM
Evan Camilleri
i dont' want to run 1.1 apps... i want to develop 1.1 apps!


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"Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message
news:%23ceGWEdkHHA.4872@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> 1.1 application run fin on the latest frameworks...
> they are backward compatible...
>
> --
> Regards,
> Lloyd Dupont
> NovaMind Software
> Mind Mapping at its best
> www.nova-mind.com
> "Evan Camilleri" <e***@holisticrd.com.nospam> wrote in message
> news:O9lmCdUkHHA.744@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> what if i want to continue developing a 1.1 application?!
>>
>>
>> "Rory Becker" <RoryBecker@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:b0ac48a0c3c38c95eed187fb2b0@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>>> I have .NET 2.0 on a VISTA machine and am trying to install .NET 1.1
>>>>
>>>> It is failing with the following error in Events Viewer:
>>>
>>> <snip/>
>>>
>>>> why?
>>>
>>> You shouldn't need to install the 1.1 framework on Vista as it already
>>> has the 3.0(2.0 + extras)  framework on it.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Author
9 May 2007 8:29 PM
Jeremy
Make an XP VM image and develop on that.


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"Evan Camilleri" <e***@holisticrd.com.nospam> wrote in message
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>i dont' want to run 1.1 apps... i want to develop 1.1 apps!
>
>
> "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message
> news:%23ceGWEdkHHA.4872@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> 1.1 application run fin on the latest frameworks...
>> they are backward compatible...
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Lloyd Dupont
>> NovaMind Software
>> Mind Mapping at its best
>> www.nova-mind.com
>> "Evan Camilleri" <e***@holisticrd.com.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:O9lmCdUkHHA.744@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> what if i want to continue developing a 1.1 application?!
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rory Becker" <RoryBecker@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
>>> news:b0ac48a0c3c38c95eed187fb2b0@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>>>> I have .NET 2.0 on a VISTA machine and am trying to install .NET 1.1
>>>>>
>>>>> It is failing with the following error in Events Viewer:
>>>>
>>>> <snip/>
>>>>
>>>>> why?
>>>>
>>>> You shouldn't need to install the 1.1 framework on Vista as it already
>>>> has the 3.0(2.0 + extras)  framework on it.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Rory
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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