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Truly cross platform?mind some of the first 'things' I had heard way back when DotNet started. It was going to be the panacea of cross platform development. I am asking the question here of the group to find out if everyone (anyone) thinks this has come (or is coming) to fruition. I think that perhaps it has gone a long way towards making it simpler to communicate between platforms but I am not sure if the framework itself has actually made it to the cross platform development hall of fame just yet. What do you folks think is the possibility of truly doing that? Looking at the mono project and actually trying to use it in some productive manner has showed me that this is far off. Just trying to get it working along with GDK and Mono-develop on a fedora Core 6 system was an exercise in futility. While I can understand what drives the open source community I honestly can't understand what keeps it going when stuff is that hard. I can install VS.NET 2005 and be developing in an hour. Hello world in Mono-develop never came to life. But, I digress and that is another rant for another message area. So, what are your thoughts and ideas? Hello!
You wrote on Tue, 1 May 2007 14:40:22 -0400: RC> The thread bellow titled 'Determining if two paths are the same' brings to RC> mind some of the first 'things' I had heard way back when DotNet started. It RC> was going to be the panacea of cross platform development. It never was. You probably mixed it with Java. With best regards, Eugene Mayevski http://www.SecureBlackbox.com - the comprehensive component suite for network security Ray Cassick wrote:
> What do you folks think is the possibility of truly doing that? Hello world? I've got much more complex stuff than that running. But, and > Looking at the mono project and actually trying to use it in some > productive manner has showed me that this is far off. Just trying to > get it working along with GDK and Mono-develop on a fedora Core 6 > system was an exercise in futility. While I can understand what > drives the open source community I honestly can't understand what > keeps it going when stuff is that hard. I can install VS.NET 2005 and > be developing in an hour. Hello world in Mono-develop never came to > life. But, I digress and that is another rant for another message > area. this is a big but, I don't develop in Linux. I develop in VS2005 and every now and then copy my binaries over to Suse Linux running in a VMWare machine to see if they work under Mono. The only problems I've seen so far are with some Windows Form components, and that's getting more and more complete all the time. Note also I don't have a real need to write cross platform software, I just think it's neat that you can. This is writing enterprise software for work and hobby games programming at home. The games have been more problematic than the business software.
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"Nik Coughlin" <nrkn.***@gmail.com> wrote in message I have tons of advanced stuff running on Windows too :)news:f18hi0$o7$1@aioe.org... > Ray Cassick wrote: >> What do you folks think is the possibility of truly doing that? >> Looking at the mono project and actually trying to use it in some >> productive manner has showed me that this is far off. Just trying to >> get it working along with GDK and Mono-develop on a fedora Core 6 >> system was an exercise in futility. While I can understand what >> drives the open source community I honestly can't understand what >> keeps it going when stuff is that hard. I can install VS.NET 2005 and >> be developing in an hour. Hello world in Mono-develop never came to >> life. But, I digress and that is another rant for another message >> area. > > Hello world? I've got much more complex stuff than that running. But, and > this is a big but, I don't develop in Linux. I develop in VS2005 and > every now and then copy my binaries over to Suse Linux running in a VMWare > machine to see if they work under Mono. The only problems I've seen so > far are with some Windows Form components, and that's getting more and > more complete all the time. > You know I never tried to do that. All that time and I have never tried just writing on windows and running on Linux :) Are they really better at the Windows forms stuff? Has GDK come along that far? > Note also I don't have a real need to write cross platform software, I I think it woul dbe neat too. Opens up all kind sof business oportinities to > just think it's neat that you can. > me. Bu then I have to actually support it :) Show quote > This is writing enterprise software for work and hobby games programming > at home. The games have been more problematic than the business software. > Ray Cassick wrote:
Show quote > "Nik Coughlin" <nrkn.***@gmail.com> wrote in message Yeah it's good, I don't much like any of the IDEs I've tried on Linux. Nice > news:f18hi0$o7$1@aioe.org... >> Ray Cassick wrote: >> >> Hello world? I've got much more complex stuff than that running. But, and >> this is a big but, I don't develop in Linux. I develop in >> VS2005 and every now and then copy my binaries over to Suse Linux >> running in a VMWare machine to see if they work under Mono. The >> only problems I've seen so far are with some Windows Form >> components, and that's getting more and more complete all the time. >> > I have tons of advanced stuff running on Windows too :) > > You know I never tried to do that. All that time and I have never > tried just writing on windows and running on Linux :) thing is that you don't even need to recompile to run .NET stuff under Mono. I just copy my bin folder over to the Linux box and go "Mono MyApp.exe" at the command line and off it goes. > Are they really better at the Windows forms stuff? Has GDK come along Getting better. Some annoying things not implemented like toolstrip. Don't > that far? think they're using GDK: Nik Coughlin wrote:
> Ray Cassick wrote: Oops, hit send. I meant to say:> >> Are they really better at the Windows forms stuff? Has GDK come along >> that far? > > Getting better. Some annoying things not implemented like toolstrip. > Don't think they're using GDK: http://www.mono-project.com/WinForms >>I had heard way back when DotNet started. It was going to be the panacea You heard wrong. No one ever made that claim for .NET.>>of cross platform development. Show quote "Ray Cassick" <rcass***@enterprocity.com> wrote in message news:ufcS5ACjHHA.3120@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > The thread bellow titled 'Determining if two paths are the same' brings to > mind some of the first 'things' I had heard way back when DotNet started. > It was going to be the panacea of cross platform development. > > > > I am asking the question here of the group to find out if everyone > (anyone) thinks this has come (or is coming) to fruition. > > > > I think that perhaps it has gone a long way towards making it simpler to > communicate between platforms but I am not sure if the framework itself > has actually made it to the cross platform development hall of fame just > yet. > > > > What do you folks think is the possibility of truly doing that? Looking at > the mono project and actually trying to use it in some productive manner > has showed me that this is far off. Just trying to get it working along > with GDK and Mono-develop on a fedora Core 6 system was an exercise in > futility. While I can understand what drives the open source community I > honestly can't understand what keeps it going when stuff is that hard. I > can install VS.NET 2005 and be developing in an hour. Hello world in > Mono-develop never came to life. But, I digress and that is another rant > for another message area. > > > > So, what are your thoughts and ideas? > >  |
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