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14 Feb 2007 7:58 PM
Madison
Hi:
We have visual studio 2005 and framework 2 running on window XP, we are
planning to switch to window vista in 3 months. We are going to develop new
web application that will take about 6-8 month to develop. We want to make
sure that when move to window vista the transition will go smooth. What is
your suggest to handle this?
Thank you.

Author
14 Feb 2007 9:33 PM
Jon Skeet [C# MVP]
Madison <Madi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> We have visual studio 2005 and framework 2 running on window XP, we are
> planning to switch to window vista in 3 months. We are going to develop new
> web application that will take about 6-8 month to develop. We want to make
> sure that when move to window vista the transition will go smooth. What is
> your suggest to handle this?

Install Vista on one machine to start with, and regularly test with it.
You could use a virtual machine if necessary.

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Author
15 Feb 2007 3:33 AM
Linda Liu [MSFT]
Hi Madison,

Firstly, as for Visual Studio, only Visual Studio 2005 can be used on
Windows Vista(Visual Studio .NET 2002 or 2003 can not be used on Windows
Vista). So if you have .NET 1.x applications to maintain, you have to do it
on Windows operation systems prior to Vista. FYI, all .NET
applications(target 1.x or 2.0)  can run on Windows Vista.

You may begin to develop your new application on Windows Vista or continue
the develop on Windows Vista. It's on your decision.

Note that after you intall VS2005 on Windows Vista, you should also intall
VS2005 SP1. You may visit the following link to get VS2005 SP1.

'Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 (SP1)'
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/bb265237.aspx

In addition, you'd better install 'Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 Upate
for Windows Vista Beta' to get VS2005 to work better with Vista. You could
get it from the above link.

Hope this helps.
If you have any question, please feel free to let me know.


Sincerely,
Linda Liu
Microsoft Online Community Support

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Author
15 Feb 2007 11:29 AM
Kevin Spencer
Hi Madison,

If you're building a web application, you should not need to use the .Net
Framework 3.0, as it is basically the 2.0 Framework plus WPF, WCF, and WWF,
all of which are great technologies, but not essential to ASP.net web
applications. As you're developing a web application, the UI should not be
an issue either, as it will run on the client in a browser.

If you're asking about the development machines, you can run Visual Studio
2005 on Vista. There are a couple of things you will need to do in order to
do this successfully. First, install Service Pack 1 for Visual Studio 2005.
Second, make sure that you run the program as an administrator. Note that in
Vista programs do not run by default with full permissions. You can
configure your shortcuts to run it as an administrator.

Next, Vista is running IIS 7, and this is not a problem with Visual Studio
and ASP.Net 2.0, except that you cannot connect to your web sites using
FrontPage server extensions, which are not supported on IIS 7. However, you
can connect to them via the file system for development. Visual Studio will
run them using its debugging server.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Software Composer
http://unclechutney.blogspot.com

The shortest distance between 2 points is a curve.

Show quote
"Madison" <Madi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:419CBFC5-0C6A-44CC-8DF7-26056A315FB8@microsoft.com...
> Hi:
> We have visual studio 2005 and framework 2 running on window XP, we are
> planning to switch to window vista in 3 months. We are going to develop
> new
> web application that will take about 6-8 month to develop. We want to make
> sure that when move to window vista the transition will go smooth. What is
> your suggest to handle this?
> Thank you.
>
Author
15 Feb 2007 1:18 PM
Morten Wennevik [C# MVP]
Just to clarify,  WWF is not included with .Net 3.0, but WF is.  I believe 
World Wildlife Fund did not agree with Windows Workflow Foundation so 
Windows Workflow Foundation is written as WF.


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Happy Coding!
Morten Wennevik [C# MVP]
Author
15 Feb 2007 6:58 PM
RobinS
Yeah, if the World Wildlife Fund people could get the Worldwide Wrestling
Foundation to change their acronym (which they did), I'm sure getting
Microsoft to change theirs would be a piece of cake.  ;-)

Robin S.
--------------------------
"Morten Wennevik [C# MVP]" <MortenWenne***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Show quote
> Just to clarify,  WWF is not included with .Net 3.0, but WF is.  I
> believe  World Wildlife Fund did not agree with Windows Workflow
> Foundation so  Windows Workflow Foundation is written as WF.
>
>
> --
> Happy Coding!
> Morten Wennevik [C# MVP]
Author
15 Feb 2007 6:57 PM
RobinS
Isn't there also a patch for Vista for VS2005? I saved this from another
post somewhere.

-----------------------------
Note that after you intall VS2005 on Windows Vista, you should also intall
VS2005 SP1. You may visit the following link to get VS2005 SP1.
'Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 (SP1)'
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/bb265237.aspx
In addition, you'd better install 'Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 Upate
for Windows Vista Beta' to get VS2005 to work better with Vista. You could
get it from the above link.
-----------------------------

Robin S.
--------
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"Kevin Spencer" <unclechut***@nothinks.com> wrote in message
news:%23Zg9dSPUHHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi Madison,
>
> If you're building a web application, you should not need to use the .Net
> Framework 3.0, as it is basically the 2.0 Framework plus WPF, WCF, and
> WWF, all of which are great technologies, but not essential to ASP.net
> web applications. As you're developing a web application, the UI should
> not be an issue either, as it will run on the client in a browser.
>
> If you're asking about the development machines, you can run Visual
> Studio 2005 on Vista. There are a couple of things you will need to do in
> order to do this successfully. First, install Service Pack 1 for Visual
> Studio 2005. Second, make sure that you run the program as an
> administrator. Note that in Vista programs do not run by default with
> full permissions. You can configure your shortcuts to run it as an
> administrator.
>
> Next, Vista is running IIS 7, and this is not a problem with Visual
> Studio and ASP.Net 2.0, except that you cannot connect to your web sites
> using FrontPage server extensions, which are not supported on IIS 7.
> However, you can connect to them via the file system for development.
> Visual Studio will run them using its debugging server.
>
> --
> HTH,
>
> Kevin Spencer
> Microsoft MVP
> Software Composer
> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>
> The shortest distance between 2 points is a curve.
>
> "Madison" <Madi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:419CBFC5-0C6A-44CC-8DF7-26056A315FB8@microsoft.com...
>> Hi:
>> We have visual studio 2005 and framework 2 running on window XP, we are
>> planning to switch to window vista in 3 months. We are going to develop
>> new
>> web application that will take about 6-8 month to develop. We want to
>> make
>> sure that when move to window vista the transition will go smooth. What
>> is
>> your suggest to handle this?
>> Thank you.
>>
>
>
Author
16 Feb 2007 12:15 PM
Kevin Spencer
Yes, Robin. Thanks for pointing out my omission. Here's the official
information from Microsoft:

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/aa948853.aspx

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Software Composer
http://unclechutney.blogspot.com

The shortest distance between 2 points is a curve.

Show quote
"RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
news:gtSdnVqTYcG9MEnYnZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@comcast.com...
> Isn't there also a patch for Vista for VS2005? I saved this from another
> post somewhere.
>
> -----------------------------
> Note that after you intall VS2005 on Windows Vista, you should also intall
> VS2005 SP1. You may visit the following link to get VS2005 SP1.
> 'Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 (SP1)'
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/bb265237.aspx
> In addition, you'd better install 'Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 Upate
> for Windows Vista Beta' to get VS2005 to work better with Vista. You could
> get it from the above link.
> -----------------------------
>
> Robin S.
> --------
> "Kevin Spencer" <unclechut***@nothinks.com> wrote in message
> news:%23Zg9dSPUHHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Madison,
>>
>> If you're building a web application, you should not need to use the .Net
>> Framework 3.0, as it is basically the 2.0 Framework plus WPF, WCF, and
>> WWF, all of which are great technologies, but not essential to ASP.net
>> web applications. As you're developing a web application, the UI should
>> not be an issue either, as it will run on the client in a browser.
>>
>> If you're asking about the development machines, you can run Visual
>> Studio 2005 on Vista. There are a couple of things you will need to do in
>> order to do this successfully. First, install Service Pack 1 for Visual
>> Studio 2005. Second, make sure that you run the program as an
>> administrator. Note that in Vista programs do not run by default with
>> full permissions. You can configure your shortcuts to run it as an
>> administrator.
>>
>> Next, Vista is running IIS 7, and this is not a problem with Visual
>> Studio and ASP.Net 2.0, except that you cannot connect to your web sites
>> using FrontPage server extensions, which are not supported on IIS 7.
>> However, you can connect to them via the file system for development.
>> Visual Studio will run them using its debugging server.
>>
>> --
>> HTH,
>>
>> Kevin Spencer
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Software Composer
>> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>>
>> The shortest distance between 2 points is a curve.
>>
>> "Madison" <Madi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:419CBFC5-0C6A-44CC-8DF7-26056A315FB8@microsoft.com...
>>> Hi:
>>> We have visual studio 2005 and framework 2 running on window XP, we are
>>> planning to switch to window vista in 3 months. We are going to develop
>>> new
>>> web application that will take about 6-8 month to develop. We want to
>>> make
>>> sure that when move to window vista the transition will go smooth. What
>>> is
>>> your suggest to handle this?
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
16 Feb 2007 6:18 PM
RobinS
I don't have Vista yet, and thought for a while that the two patches were
the same thing, so I figured it might confuse other people, too. Thanks for
posting that link; I'll save it for future reference.

Robin S.
Ts'i mahnu uterna ot twan ot geifur hingts uto.
-----------------------------------------------
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"Kevin Spencer" <unclechut***@nothinks.com> wrote in message
news:eoRMgQcUHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Yes, Robin. Thanks for pointing out my omission. Here's the official
> information from Microsoft:
>
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/aa948853.aspx
>
> --
> HTH,
>
> Kevin Spencer
> Microsoft MVP
> Software Composer
> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>
> The shortest distance between 2 points is a curve.
>
> "RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
> news:gtSdnVqTYcG9MEnYnZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Isn't there also a patch for Vista for VS2005? I saved this from another
>> post somewhere.
>>
>> -----------------------------
>> Note that after you intall VS2005 on Windows Vista, you should also
>> intall
>> VS2005 SP1. You may visit the following link to get VS2005 SP1.
>> 'Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 (SP1)'
>> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/bb265237.aspx
>> In addition, you'd better install 'Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1
>> Upate
>> for Windows Vista Beta' to get VS2005 to work better with Vista. You
>> could
>> get it from the above link.
>> -----------------------------
>>
>> Robin S.
>> --------
>> "Kevin Spencer" <unclechut***@nothinks.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23Zg9dSPUHHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Madison,
>>>
>>> If you're building a web application, you should not need to use the
>>> .Net Framework 3.0, as it is basically the 2.0 Framework plus WPF, WCF,
>>> and WWF, all of which are great technologies, but not essential to
>>> ASP.net web applications. As you're developing a web application, the
>>> UI should not be an issue either, as it will run on the client in a
>>> browser.
>>>
>>> If you're asking about the development machines, you can run Visual
>>> Studio 2005 on Vista. There are a couple of things you will need to do
>>> in order to do this successfully. First, install Service Pack 1 for
>>> Visual Studio 2005. Second, make sure that you run the program as an
>>> administrator. Note that in Vista programs do not run by default with
>>> full permissions. You can configure your shortcuts to run it as an
>>> administrator.
>>>
>>> Next, Vista is running IIS 7, and this is not a problem with Visual
>>> Studio and ASP.Net 2.0, except that you cannot connect to your web
>>> sites using FrontPage server extensions, which are not supported on IIS
>>> 7. However, you can connect to them via the file system for
>>> development. Visual Studio will run them using its debugging server.
>>>
>>> --
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>> Kevin Spencer
>>> Microsoft MVP
>>> Software Composer
>>> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> The shortest distance between 2 points is a curve.
>>>
>>> "Madison" <Madi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:419CBFC5-0C6A-44CC-8DF7-26056A315FB8@microsoft.com...
>>>> Hi:
>>>> We have visual studio 2005 and framework 2 running on window XP, we
>>>> are
>>>> planning to switch to window vista in 3 months. We are going to
>>>> develop new
>>>> web application that will take about 6-8 month to develop. We want to
>>>> make
>>>> sure that when move to window vista the transition will go smooth.
>>>> What is
>>>> your suggest to handle this?
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
15 Feb 2007 5:28 PM
Madison
Thank you for all your answers.

Can we develop web application using VS 2005 on window XP and after that
move to window Vista running VS 2005 with SP 1 install?
Author
15 Feb 2007 6:58 PM
RobinS
Yes, you should be able to do that.

Robin S.
-------------------
Show quote
"Madison" <Madi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9B7F6F95-A6A6-416B-922C-6541E3D47ADC@microsoft.com...
> Thank you for all your answers.
>
> Can we develop web application using VS 2005 on window XP and after that
> move to window Vista running VS 2005 with SP 1 install?
Author
16 Feb 2007 7:39 AM
Linda Liu [MSFT]
Hi Madison,

Yes, you could do like that.

If you have any question, please feel free to let me know.

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Sincerely,
Linda Liu
Microsoft Online Community Support
Author
16 Feb 2007 12:12 PM
Kevin Spencer
Yup.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Software Composer
http://unclechutney.blogspot.com

The shortest distance between 2 points is a curve.

Show quote
"Madison" <Madi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9B7F6F95-A6A6-416B-922C-6541E3D47ADC@microsoft.com...
> Thank you for all your answers.
>
> Can we develop web application using VS 2005 on window XP and after that
> move to window Vista running VS 2005 with SP 1 install?
Author
20 Feb 2007 10:00 AM
Jeffrey Tan[MSFT]
Hi Madison,

Have you reviewed all the replies to you? Is your problem resolved? If you
still need any help, please feel free to feedback, thanks.

Best regards,
Jeffrey Tan
Microsoft Online Community Support
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