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16 Nov 2006 9:11 AM
MichaelG
..Net 3.0 deployment via Active Directory and Group Policy seems pretty broken
to me.  The most up to date info I can find is in the RTM SDK under
'Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Administrator Deployment Guide'.

The script at the bottom of that article ignores the WIC and XPS components
of dotnetfx3.exe and the command to extract wcf.exe does not work.  WCF.exe
/? indicates there is no /c switch for wcf.exe.

Could someone from MS have a look at this and provide a working script or
other instructions on how to deploy with Group Policy?

Thanks
Michael

Author
17 Nov 2006 7:44 AM
Gary Chang[MSFT]
Hi Michael,

>The script at the bottom of that article ignores the WIC and XPS
>components of dotnetfx3.exe and the command to extract wcf.exe
>does not work.  WCF.exe /? indicates there is no /c switch for wcf.exe.

The WIC is not the .NET Framework 3.0's components, it is the Microsoft
Windows Systems Components, the general convention to install the component
is via the Windows Update(Optional). So the NET Framework 3.0 doesn't
contain this component. If you want to install it as command line, you can
download that component package from the following link:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=8e011506-6307-445b-
b950-215def45ddd8&DisplayLang=en

Then you need to extract its exe file and run the update.exe (in ite update
subfolder) as the following, this Windows update may need a reboot to take
effective:

update /q /norestart

Please refer to the following MSDN article links for the details about how
to run the update.exe from the command line:

The Package Installer (Formerly Called Update.exe) for Microsoft Windows
Operating Systems and Windows Components
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/deployment/wi
nupdte.mspx


The XPS should be already been integrated in the core components of the
.NET Framework 3.0, it is not provided as a separated component in .NET
Framework 3.0's redist package.


For the issue about the command to extract wcf.exe, I am afraid that .NET
Framework 3.0 Administrator Deployment Guide makes a mistake here. The
corresponding component installation package for the WCF is indigo.exe
(Indigo is the codename of the WCF), there is no wcf.exe is the .NET FX
3.0's package, you just need to replace the wcf.exe with the indigo.exe in
the corresponding line of the script. We are sorry for the inconvenience
which that mistake brought to you.

By the way, the sample script in that Deployment Guide article would
install all the NET Framework 3.0 components administratively, except for
the bug of that non-existed wcf.exe. :(


Thanks!

Best regards,

Gary Chang
Microsoft Online Community Support
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Author
22 Nov 2006 9:22 AM
MichaelG
Hi Gary,

Sorry for not picking up on this.  I got rather distracted by Vista RTM and
repaving my development machine. :)

Firstly, you say WIC is not part of the .NET 3.0 redistributable but it
looks to me as if it is.
Following the script from the SDK 'Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0
Administrator Deployment Guide' I start by extracting the files from
dotnetfx3.exe using:-

set WORKFOLDER=c:\deploy
call dotnetfx3.exe /q /x:C:%WORKFOLDER%\ext

This produces subdirectories for all the .Net 3.0 components which include
WIC and XPS.  The WIC directory contains WIC_X86_ENU.exe and the XPS
directory contains XPSEPSC-x86-en-US.exe.  Neither of these are installed by
the script in the deployment guide.

Also, the WCF subdirectory contains wcf.exe - not indigo.exe.  The
deployment script suggests that the following will produce an .msi that I can
use for an administrative install:-

call %WORKFOLDER%\ext\wcu\WCF\wcf.exe /q /c:"msiexec /qb /a wcf.msi
REBOOT=ReallySuppress /l* %WORKFOLDER%\logs\WCF_x86.log
TARGETDIR=%WORKFOLDER%\AIP\WCF_x86"

- but it doesn't!  It fails silently.  Same for the WIC and XPS executables.

At the moment I don't see how to create an administrative install for use
with Active Directory.

Even if it can be done this way, I presume the client machine will have
individual entries in the Control Panel / Add or Remove Programs list and I
wonder whether other programs trying to detect if .Net 3.0 is installed will
be able to do so.

There really needs to be a proper Administrative install that can do the
whole lot in one go.

Hope you can help.
Thanks
Michael



""Gary Chang[MSFT]"" wrote:

Show quote
> Hi Michael,
>
> >The script at the bottom of that article ignores the WIC and XPS
> >components of dotnetfx3.exe and the command to extract wcf.exe
> >does not work.  WCF.exe /? indicates there is no /c switch for wcf.exe.
>
> The WIC is not the .NET Framework 3.0's components, it is the Microsoft
> Windows Systems Components, the general convention to install the component
> is via the Windows Update(Optional). So the NET Framework 3.0 doesn't
> contain this component. If you want to install it as command line, you can
> download that component package from the following link:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=8e011506-6307-445b-
> b950-215def45ddd8&DisplayLang=en
>
> Then you need to extract its exe file and run the update.exe (in ite update
> subfolder) as the following, this Windows update may need a reboot to take
> effective:
>
> update /q /norestart
>
> Please refer to the following MSDN article links for the details about how
> to run the update.exe from the command line:
>
> The Package Installer (Formerly Called Update.exe) for Microsoft Windows
> Operating Systems and Windows Components
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/deployment/wi
> nupdte.mspx
>
>
> The XPS should be already been integrated in the core components of the
> .NET Framework 3.0, it is not provided as a separated component in .NET
> Framework 3.0's redist package.
>
>
> For the issue about the command to extract wcf.exe, I am afraid that .NET
> Framework 3.0 Administrator Deployment Guide makes a mistake here. The
> corresponding component installation package for the WCF is indigo.exe
> (Indigo is the codename of the WCF), there is no wcf.exe is the .NET FX
> 3.0's package, you just need to replace the wcf.exe with the indigo.exe in
> the corresponding line of the script. We are sorry for the inconvenience
> which that mistake brought to you.
>
> By the way, the sample script in that Deployment Guide article would
> install all the NET Framework 3.0 components administratively, except for
> the bug of that non-existed wcf.exe. :(
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Gary Chang
> Microsoft Online Community Support
> ==================================================
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> ications.
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> most efficient resolution. The offering is not appropriate for situations
> that require urgent, real-time or phone-based interactions or complex
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> handled working with a dedicated Microsoft Support Engineer by contacting
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Author
22 Nov 2006 9:34 AM
MichaelG
Hi Gary

from your direct email ... see response below:-

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>>Hi Michael,

>>Thanks for the response!

>>Would you please tell me which version of the .Net Framework 3.0 redistributable package you work with?

>>I used the package which is mentioned is “Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Deployment Readme” :

>>…
>>Step 2: Create a Network Image
>>1.                  Create a folder on the server, such as drive:\NETFX3.

>>2.                  Download the .NET Framework 3.0 redistributable package from the Web and save it in the folder you created in step 1.

>>Download locations for the packages are:

>>·                                (X86) winfxrc.exe

>>…

>>So I think you may just use another redistributable package from another download link, is it possible? If so, I suggest you download the above redistributable package and try my suggestion again. If there still has some problem, you can continue the discussion in the newsgroup’s thread and I am ready to follow up. ;-)

>>Thanks!

>>Best Regards!

>>Gary Chang
>>Microsoft Developer Support

The link you have used above for the redistributable package is for the Beta
2 release which is pre Jan 2006 - nearly a year old!

I'm using the RTM redistributable, File Version 3.0.4506.30 from the MSDN
subscriber downloads.

Over to you...

Michael
Author
24 Nov 2006 2:45 AM
Gary Chang[MSFT]
Hi Michael,

Thanks for the response.

Now the problem is that documentation is out of date as well as its
corresponding .NET Framework 3.0 redist package.

Currently we are contacting the product team on this issue, we will update
you as soon as possible.

Have a good thanksgiving day!

Best regards,

Gary Chang
Microsoft Online Community Support
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Author
30 Nov 2006 7:23 PM
MichaelG
Hi Gary,

Have you got on any more news on this yet?  It is now two weeks since I
raised it.

Thanks
Michael


""Gary Chang[MSFT]"" wrote:

Show quote
> Hi Michael,
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> Now the problem is that documentation is out of date as well as its
> corresponding .NET Framework 3.0 redist package.
>
> Currently we are contacting the product team on this issue, we will update
> you as soon as possible.
>
> Have a good thanksgiving day!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Gary Chang
> Microsoft Online Community Support
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>
Author
6 Dec 2006 12:15 AM
Tommy Campbell - [MSFT]*
Hi Michael,

The content team is working to update and upload the changes to document
referenced.

Thanks for your patience while this work is being completed.

I will post back as soon as it is ready with a link.

Thank you for pointing out this outdated document!!  :)

Best Regards,

Tommy Campbell, MCSA, MCSE
Microsoft Online Support Engineer
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29 Dec 2006 2:33 PM
Tommy Campbell - [MSFT]*
Hi Michael,

Thanks for your patience over the holiday break. I wanted to let you know
that I am still working on this change request and will update you as soon
as possible.

Happy New Year!

Tommy Campbell, MCSA, MCSE
Microsoft Online Support Engineer
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