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VS2005 FormsDesigner, Framework 3.0 and XAML

Author
13 Nov 2006 2:38 PM
Horst Klein
Hi
Does have someone installed FrameWork 3.0 on VS2005 und used the
Formsdesigner zu build XAMLs.
How does this work with the old 2.0 and new 3.0 Controls?

Author
13 Nov 2006 3:25 PM
Laurent Bugnion
Hallo,

Horst Klein wrote:
> Hi
> Does have someone installed FrameWork 3.0 on VS2005 und used the
> Formsdesigner zu build XAMLs.
> How does this work with the old 2.0 and new 3.0 Controls?

There are 2 designers now. One is the standard WinForms designer, and
works just like before. The new one is called Cider (codename), and can
be used to design XAML files visually, using WPF controls. WPF and
WinForms have nothing in common, but it is possible to integrate WPF
controls in a WinForms application, and vice-versa. The technology
allowing to do that is named "Crossbow", you can look it up on Google,
there are examples available.

I didn't install the final version of 3.0 yet. Here's a hint: In the
previous versions, to start Cider, you needed to right-click on a XAML
file, select "Open with" and then "Cider". I don't know if they changed
it in the final version. It was still the case in the September CTP (RC1).

HTH,
Laurent
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Author
13 Nov 2006 4:26 PM
Horst Klein
Hi Laurant
Thanks a lot for these good news.
The Crossbow sounds very nice, but it if really works in real live?
Do you ever build an application in xaml?
Greatings from Winterthur ;-)
Horst

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> Hallo,
>
> Horst Klein wrote:
>> Hi
>> Does have someone installed FrameWork 3.0 on VS2005 und used the
>> Formsdesigner zu build XAMLs.
>> How does this work with the old 2.0 and new 3.0 Controls?
>
> There are 2 designers now. One is the standard WinForms designer, and
> works just like before. The new one is called Cider (codename), and can be
> used to design XAML files visually, using WPF controls. WPF and WinForms
> have nothing in common, but it is possible to integrate WPF controls in a
> WinForms application, and vice-versa. The technology allowing to do that
> is named "Crossbow", you can look it up on Google, there are examples
> available.
>
> I didn't install the final version of 3.0 yet. Here's a hint: In the
> previous versions, to start Cider, you needed to right-click on a XAML
> file, select "Open with" and then "Cider". I don't know if they changed it
> in the final version. It was still the case in the September CTP (RC1).
>
> HTH,
> Laurent
> --
> Laurent Bugnion, GalaSoft
> Software engineering: http://www.galasoft-LB.ch
> Private/Malaysia: http://mypage.bluewin.ch/lbugnion
> Support children in Calcutta: http://www.calcutta-espoir.ch
Author
15 Nov 2006 8:35 AM
Laurent Bugnion
Hallo Horst,

Horst Klein wrote:
> Hi Laurant
> Thanks a lot for these good news.
> The Crossbow sounds very nice, but it if really works in real live?

Yes, Crossbow works, but I am not sure what you mean with "real live".
WPF has only been final since last week. There have been CTP versions
available for quite some time already. Me and my colleagues used
Crossbow in a few prototypes with success.

Note however that Crossbow doesn't work in XBAP applications.

> Do you ever build an application in xaml?

Not only XAML, rather XAML and code behind. XAML only applications have
a limited application in my opinion.

I have a few prototypes on my website http://www.galasoft-lb.ch

> Greatings from Winterthur ;-)

And greetings back from Stäfa.
Laurent
--
Laurent Bugnion, GalaSoft
Software engineering: http://www.galasoft-LB.ch
Private/Malaysia: http://mypage.bluewin.ch/lbugnion
Support children in Calcutta: http://www.calcutta-espoir.ch

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