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Author
6 Nov 2006 11:46 PM
Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]
Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Redistributable Package
  http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10cc340b-f857-4a14-83f5-25634c3bf043

Readme
  http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/support/relnotes/netfx3/default.aspx



Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0
  http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=F54F5537-CC86-4BF5-AE44-F5A1E805680D

Final Fidalgo CTP
    http://blogs.msdn.com/jgalasyn/archive/2006/10/30/october-ctp-and-the-last-build-of-fidalgo.aspx

Extensions for Windows Workflow Foundation
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5D61409E-1FA3-48CF-8023-E8F38E709BA6



--
Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_dotnet.html - http://dnetmaster.net/

Author
7 Nov 2006 12:41 AM
Dennis
Would be nice if Msoft fixed the bugs and other BS in VS 2003 and VS 2005
before coming out with new and probably very buggy Orcas version!
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Dennis in Houston


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Author
7 Nov 2006 4:50 AM
dude
I am with you on this ...

"Dennis" <Den***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0596A7CF-BF1C-4EF0-99A7-A526EDE66EE3@microsoft.com...
> Would be nice if Msoft fixed the bugs and other BS in VS 2003 and VS 2005
> before coming out with new and probably very buggy Orcas version!
> --
> Dennis in Houston
>
>
> "Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Redistributable Package
> >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10cc340b-f857-4a14-83f5-25634c3bf043
> >
> > Readme
> >
http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/support/relnotes/netfx3/default.aspx
> >
> >
> >
> > Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0
> >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=F54F5537-CC86-4BF5-AE44-F5A1E805680D
> >
> >  Final Fidalgo CTP
> >
http://blogs.msdn.com/jgalasyn/archive/2006/10/30/october-ctp-and-the-last-build-of-fidalgo.aspx
> >
> >  Extensions for Windows Workflow Foundation
> >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5D61409E-1FA3-48CF-8023-E8F38E709BA6
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >  Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
> >  http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_dotnet.html - http://dnetmaster.net/
> >
> >
> >
Author
9 Nov 2006 3:26 AM
Spam Catcher
=?Utf-8?B?RGVubmlz?= <Den***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
news:0596A7CF-BF1C-4EF0-99A7-A526EDE66EE3@microsoft.com:

> Would be nice if Msoft fixed the bugs and other BS in VS 2003 and VS
> 2005 before coming out with new and probably very buggy Orcas version!

Microsoft sure knows it's priorities :-(
Author
7 Nov 2006 12:41 AM
Chris Mullins
Will this version of the Visual Studio 2005 Extensions let me double-click
on a button, and have it create the event? Wiring everything up by hand was
the only real issue I had with the last version...

--
Chris Mullins, MCSD.NET, MCPD:Enterprise
http://www.coversant.net/blogs/cmullins


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"Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]" <spam.netmaster@swissonline.ch> wrote in message
news:OnhuG3fAHHA.144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Redistributable Package
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10cc340b-f857-4a14-83f5-25634c3bf043
>
> Readme
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/support/relnotes/netfx3/default.aspx
>
>
>
> Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=F54F5537-CC86-4BF5-AE44-F5A1E805680D
>
> Final Fidalgo CTP
>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/jgalasyn/archive/2006/10/30/october-ctp-and-the-last-build-of-fidalgo.aspx
>
> Extensions for Windows Workflow Foundation
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5D61409E-1FA3-48CF-8023-E8F38E709BA6
>
>
>
> --
> Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
> http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_dotnet.html - http://dnetmaster.net/
>
>
Author
7 Nov 2006 2:35 AM
Lloyd Dupont
"Chris Mullins" <cmull***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eYsw9VgAHHA.3536@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Will this version of the Visual Studio 2005 Extensions let me double-click
> on a button, and have it create the event? Wiring everything up by hand
> was the only real issue I had with the last version...

???
works for me....

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>
> --
> Chris Mullins, MCSD.NET, MCPD:Enterprise
> http://www.coversant.net/blogs/cmullins
>
>
> "Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]" <spam.netmaster@swissonline.ch> wrote in
> message news:OnhuG3fAHHA.144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Redistributable Package
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10cc340b-f857-4a14-83f5-25634c3bf043
>>
>> Readme
>>
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/support/relnotes/netfx3/default.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>> Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=F54F5537-CC86-4BF5-AE44-F5A1E805680D
>>
>> Final Fidalgo CTP
>>
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/jgalasyn/archive/2006/10/30/october-ctp-and-the-last-build-of-fidalgo.aspx
>>
>> Extensions for Windows Workflow Foundation
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5D61409E-1FA3-48CF-8023-E8F38E709BA6
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
>> http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_dotnet.html - http://dnetmaster.net/
>>
>>
>
>
Author
7 Nov 2006 9:49 AM
Willy Denoyette [MVP]
"Chris Mullins" <cmull***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eYsw9VgAHHA.3536@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| Will this version of the Visual Studio 2005 Extensions let me double-click
| on a button, and have it create the event? Wiring everything up by hand
was
| the only real issue I had with the last version...
|

No, it won't, the WPF designer is still in it's early design phase and
extremely limited in capabilities. Remember Orcas is scheduled to hit the
streets late 2007 early 2008, I guess we still have a number of CTP's to go
before we will see a fully functional designer.

Willy.
Author
7 Nov 2006 6:37 PM
Mythran
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"Willy Denoyette [MVP]" <willy.denoye***@telenet.be> wrote in message
news:el4WXIlAHHA.1012@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> "Chris Mullins" <cmull***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:eYsw9VgAHHA.3536@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | Will this version of the Visual Studio 2005 Extensions let me
> double-click
> | on a button, and have it create the event? Wiring everything up by hand
> was
> | the only real issue I had with the last version...
> |
>
> No, it won't, the WPF designer is still in it's early design phase and
> extremely limited in capabilities. Remember Orcas is scheduled to hit the
> streets late 2007 early 2008, I guess we still have a number of CTP's to
> go
> before we will see a fully functional designer.
>
> Willy.
>
>

Since when has any IDE been fully functional? :P

Myth
Author
7 Nov 2006 7:11 PM
Willy Denoyette [MVP]
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"Mythran" <kip_pot***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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|
|
| "Willy Denoyette [MVP]" <willy.denoye***@telenet.be> wrote in message
| news:el4WXIlAHHA.1012@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| >
| > "Chris Mullins" <cmull***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
| > news:eYsw9VgAHHA.3536@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | Will this version of the Visual Studio 2005 Extensions let me
| > double-click
| > | on a button, and have it create the event? Wiring everything up by
hand
| > was
| > | the only real issue I had with the last version...
| > |
| >
| > No, it won't, the WPF designer is still in it's early design phase and
| > extremely limited in capabilities. Remember Orcas is scheduled to hit
the
| > streets late 2007 early 2008, I guess we still have a number of CTP's to
| > go
| > before we will see a fully functional designer.
| >
| > Willy.
| >
| >
|
| Since when has any IDE been fully functional? :P
|
| Myth
|

Right, should have said "reasonably usable" ;-)

Willy.
Author
9 Nov 2006 3:26 AM
Spam Catcher
"Willy Denoyette [MVP]" <willy.denoye***@telenet.be> wrote in news:O
$ZuTCqAHHA.4***@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

> Right, should have said "reasonably usable" ;-)

VS.NET 2005 bordered on unusable - until I downloaded 2 hotfixes and 1
service pack!
Author
7 Nov 2006 12:47 AM
Lloyd Dupont
Great! :D

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"Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]" <spam.netmaster@swissonline.ch> wrote in message
news:OnhuG3fAHHA.144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Redistributable Package
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10cc340b-f857-4a14-83f5-25634c3bf043
>
> Readme
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/support/relnotes/netfx3/default.aspx
>
>
>
> Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=F54F5537-CC86-4BF5-AE44-F5A1E805680D
>
> Final Fidalgo CTP
>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/jgalasyn/archive/2006/10/30/october-ctp-and-the-last-build-of-fidalgo.aspx
>
> Extensions for Windows Workflow Foundation
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5D61409E-1FA3-48CF-8023-E8F38E709BA6
>
>
>
> --
> Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
> http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_dotnet.html - http://dnetmaster.net/
>
>
Author
7 Nov 2006 1:19 AM
William Stacey [C# MVP]
Me likey!!  Congrats MS.

--
William Stacey [C# MVP]
Author
7 Nov 2006 3:49 AM
Smokey Grindel
so where's the admin installer... this is just the "installer" for the web
download...


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"Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]" <spam.netmaster@swissonline.ch> wrote in message
news:OnhuG3fAHHA.144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Redistributable Package
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10cc340b-f857-4a14-83f5-25634c3bf043
>
> Readme
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/support/relnotes/netfx3/default.aspx
>
>
>
> Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=F54F5537-CC86-4BF5-AE44-F5A1E805680D
>
> Final Fidalgo CTP
>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/jgalasyn/archive/2006/10/30/october-ctp-and-the-last-build-of-fidalgo.aspx
>
> Extensions for Windows Workflow Foundation
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5D61409E-1FA3-48CF-8023-E8F38E709BA6
>
>
>
> --
> Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
> http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_dotnet.html - http://dnetmaster.net/
>
>
Author
7 Nov 2006 9:07 AM
Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]
> so where's the admin installer... this is just the "installer" for the web download...


on
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10cc340b-f857-4a14-83f5-25634c3bf043
watch for links:
  "you can download the entire package for x86 or for x64"


x86 (dotnetfx3.exe, ~50MB):
   http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=70848

x64 (dotnetfx3_x64.exe, ~90MB):
    http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=70849




--
Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_dotnet.html - http://dnetmaster.net/
Author
7 Nov 2006 7:00 AM
chanmm
Hello, hello is this RTM??? or still RC???

chanmm

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"Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]" <spam.netmaster@swissonline.ch> wrote in message
news:OnhuG3fAHHA.144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Redistributable Package
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10cc340b-f857-4a14-83f5-25634c3bf043
>
> Readme
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/support/relnotes/netfx3/default.aspx
>
>
>
> Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=F54F5537-CC86-4BF5-AE44-F5A1E805680D
>
> Final Fidalgo CTP
>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/jgalasyn/archive/2006/10/30/october-ctp-and-the-last-build-of-fidalgo.aspx
>
> Extensions for Windows Workflow Foundation
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5D61409E-1FA3-48CF-8023-E8F38E709BA6
>
>
>
> --
> Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
> http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_dotnet.html - http://dnetmaster.net/
>
>
Author
7 Nov 2006 7:50 AM
Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]
> Hello, hello is this RTM??? or still RC???


100% RTM
     http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/nov06/11-06MSVisualStudioPR.mspx





--
Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_dotnet.html - http://dnetmaster.net/
Author
7 Nov 2006 9:27 AM
Willy Denoyette [MVP]
"Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]" <spam.netmaster@swissonline.ch> wrote in message
news:O45unFkAHHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|    > Hello, hello is this RTM??? or still RC???
|
|
| 100% RTM
|
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/nov06/11-06MSVisualStudioPR.mspx
|
|

Not really,the Framework 3.0 and VSTO for Office 2007
(http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio) are RTM, the VS2005 Extentions are CTP
November.

Willy.
Author
7 Nov 2006 10:00 AM
Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]
> the VS2005 Extentions are CTP November.


exactly, as I wrote in my first post:

  Final Fidalgo CTP
      http://blogs.msdn.com/jgalasyn/archive/2006/10/30/october-ctp-and-the-last-build-of-fidalgo.aspx




--
Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_dotnet.html - http://dnetmaster.net/
Author
7 Nov 2006 11:02 AM
Willy Denoyette [MVP]
"Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]" <spam.netmaster@swissonline.ch> wrote in message
news:uJcKBOlAHHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|    > the VS2005 Extentions are CTP November.
|
|
| exactly, as I wrote in my first post:
|
|  Final Fidalgo CTP
|
http://blogs.msdn.com/jgalasyn/archive/2006/10/30/october-ctp-and-the-last-build-of-fidalgo.aspx
|
|
|

Sure, but your reply:
<
100% RTM
     http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/nov06/11-06MSVisualStudioPR.mspx

>
is rather confusing (1) 100% and (2) presspass doesn't talk about Fidalgo
(WinFX VS 2005 Extentions).

Note that the blog post is rather confusing too...
<snip
So, the October CTP is the one to get, if you're doing WPF development into
the future. /snip>
this makes you think that the latest( Fidalgo) CTP is October, while in
reality it's the November CTP, no big deal though.
More confusing is that last sentence, IMO is you're serious about WPF, you
should know/accept that the October (and November) CTP is "final" but still
quite limited in functionality, so you'll have to live with it until Orcas
hits the streets.

Willy.
Author
7 Nov 2006 9:19 AM
Willy Denoyette [MVP]
Framework 3.0 = RTM
VS2005 Extentions are CTP's (November).

Willy.

"chanmm" <chan***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uaBI0pjAHHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| Hello, hello is this RTM??? or still RC???
|
| chanmm
|
| "Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]" <spam.netmaster@swissonline.ch> wrote in
message
| news:OnhuG3fAHHA.144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Redistributable Package
| >
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10cc340b-f857-4a14-83f5-25634c3bf043
| >
| > Readme
| >
| >
http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/support/relnotes/netfx3/default.aspx
| >
| >
| >
| > Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0
| >
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=F54F5537-CC86-4BF5-AE44-F5A1E805680D
| >
| > Final Fidalgo CTP
| >
| >
http://blogs.msdn.com/jgalasyn/archive/2006/10/30/october-ctp-and-the-last-build-of-fidalgo.aspx
| >
| > Extensions for Windows Workflow Foundation
| >
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5D61409E-1FA3-48CF-8023-E8F38E709BA6
Show quote
| >
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
| > http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_dotnet.html - http://dnetmaster.net/
| >
| >
|
|
Author
7 Nov 2006 2:27 PM
Kevin Spencer
WWF  RTM, VS EXT 4 WPF, WCF CTP, AFAIK ROFLMOD, OK?

--
WTF OK,

KS
MS MVP
MSD
http://unclechutney.blogspot.com

I just flew in from Chicago with
a man with a wooden leg named Smith
who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
So I bit him.


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"chanmm" <chan***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uaBI0pjAHHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hello, hello is this RTM??? or still RC???
>
> chanmm
>
> "Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]" <spam.netmaster@swissonline.ch> wrote in
> message news:OnhuG3fAHHA.144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Redistributable Package
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10cc340b-f857-4a14-83f5-25634c3bf043
>>
>> Readme
>>
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/support/relnotes/netfx3/default.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>> Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=F54F5537-CC86-4BF5-AE44-F5A1E805680D
>>
>> Final Fidalgo CTP
>>
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/jgalasyn/archive/2006/10/30/october-ctp-and-the-last-build-of-fidalgo.aspx
>>
>> Extensions for Windows Workflow Foundation
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5D61409E-1FA3-48CF-8023-E8F38E709BA6
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
>> http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_dotnet.html - http://dnetmaster.net/
>>
>>
>
>
Author
7 Nov 2006 10:45 PM
Dennis
Any chance you can educate some of us on the abbreviations like RTM, CTP,
etc.?  Any info would be appreciated...or maybe  webiste that can explain
these abbv's.
--
Dennis in Houston


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"Kevin Spencer" wrote:

> WWF  RTM, VS EXT 4 WPF, WCF CTP, AFAIK ROFLMOD, OK?
>
> --
> WTF OK,
>
> KS
> MS MVP
> MSD
> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>
> I just flew in from Chicago with
> a man with a wooden leg named Smith
> who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
> So I bit him.
>
>
> "chanmm" <chan***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uaBI0pjAHHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > Hello, hello is this RTM??? or still RC???
> >
> > chanmm
> >
> > "Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]" <spam.netmaster@swissonline.ch> wrote in
> > message news:OnhuG3fAHHA.144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Redistributable Package
> >>
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10cc340b-f857-4a14-83f5-25634c3bf043
> >>
> >> Readme
> >>
> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/support/relnotes/netfx3/default.aspx
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0
> >>
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=F54F5537-CC86-4BF5-AE44-F5A1E805680D
> >>
> >> Final Fidalgo CTP
> >>
> >> http://blogs.msdn.com/jgalasyn/archive/2006/10/30/october-ctp-and-the-last-build-of-fidalgo.aspx
> >>
> >> Extensions for Windows Workflow Foundation
> >>
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5D61409E-1FA3-48CF-8023-E8F38E709BA6
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
> >> http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_dotnet.html - http://dnetmaster.net/
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
Author
7 Nov 2006 11:31 PM
Kevin Spencer
"Dennis" <Den***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:51E6EBF4-622C-49BF-BFAB-5ABD770E4BA2@microsoft.com...
> Any chance you can educate some of us on the abbreviations like RTM, CTP,
> etc.?  Any info would be appreciated...or maybe  webiste that can explain
> these abbv's.
> --
> Dennis in Houston
>

WWF = Windows WorkFlow Foundation
RTM = Release To Manufacturers
VS = Visual Studio
EXT = Extensions
4 = For
WPF = Windows Presentation Foundation
WCF = Windows Communication Foundation
CTP = Community Technology Preview
AFAIK = As Far As I Know
ROFLMOD = Rolling on the Floor... (have to leave a little mystery for you!)
OK = All Correct
WTF = What the F***
KS = Kevin Spencer
MS MVP = Microsoft MostValuable Professional
MSD = Ministry of Software Development

Sorry, I couldn't resist, with all those acronyms floating around. I got a
little carried away!

--
;-), = (Winky Face)

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Ministry of Software Development
http://unclechutney.blogspot.com

I just flew in from Chicago with
a man with a wooden leg named Smith
who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
So I bit him.


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"Dennis" <Den***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:51E6EBF4-622C-49BF-BFAB-5ABD770E4BA2@microsoft.com...
> Any chance you can educate some of us on the abbreviations like RTM, CTP,
> etc.?  Any info would be appreciated...or maybe  webiste that can explain
> these abbv's.
> --
> Dennis in Houston
>
>
> "Kevin Spencer" wrote:
>
>> WWF  RTM, VS EXT 4 WPF, WCF CTP, AFAIK ROFLMOD, OK?
>>
>> --
>> WTF OK,
>>
>> KS
>> MS MVP
>> MSD
>> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>>
>> I just flew in from Chicago with
>> a man with a wooden leg named Smith
>> who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
>> So I bit him.
>>
>>
>> "chanmm" <chan***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uaBI0pjAHHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> > Hello, hello is this RTM??? or still RC???
>> >
>> > chanmm
>> >
>> > "Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]" <spam.netmaster@swissonline.ch> wrote in
>> > message news:OnhuG3fAHHA.144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Redistributable Package
>> >>
>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10cc340b-f857-4a14-83f5-25634c3bf043
>> >>
>> >> Readme
>> >>
>> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/support/relnotes/netfx3/default.aspx
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0
>> >>
>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=F54F5537-CC86-4BF5-AE44-F5A1E805680D
>> >>
>> >> Final Fidalgo CTP
>> >>
>> >> http://blogs.msdn.com/jgalasyn/archive/2006/10/30/october-ctp-and-the-last-build-of-fidalgo.aspx
>> >>
>> >> Extensions for Windows Workflow Foundation
>> >>
>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5D61409E-1FA3-48CF-8023-E8F38E709BA6
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
>> >> http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_dotnet.html - http://dnetmaster.net/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
Author
7 Nov 2006 11:48 PM
Dave Sexton
> ROFLMOD = Rolling on the Floor... (have to leave a little mystery for you!)

Rolling on floor, lost my one dollar?

That's a shame - you should be more careful next time :p

--
Dave Sexton

Show quote
"Kevin Spencer" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
news:OKxgITsAHHA.2316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "Dennis" <Den***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:51E6EBF4-622C-49BF-BFAB-5ABD770E4BA2@microsoft.com...
>> Any chance you can educate some of us on the abbreviations like RTM, CTP,
>> etc.?  Any info would be appreciated...or maybe  webiste that can explain
>> these abbv's.
>> --
>> Dennis in Houston
>>
>
> WWF = Windows WorkFlow Foundation
> RTM = Release To Manufacturers
> VS = Visual Studio
> EXT = Extensions
> 4 = For
> WPF = Windows Presentation Foundation
> WCF = Windows Communication Foundation
> CTP = Community Technology Preview
> AFAIK = As Far As I Know
> ROFLMOD = Rolling on the Floor... (have to leave a little mystery for you!)
> OK = All Correct
> WTF = What the F***
> KS = Kevin Spencer
> MS MVP = Microsoft MostValuable Professional
> MSD = Ministry of Software Development
>
> Sorry, I couldn't resist, with all those acronyms floating around. I got a
> little carried away!
>
> --
> ;-), = (Winky Face)
>
> Kevin Spencer
> Microsoft MVP
> Ministry of Software Development
> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>
> I just flew in from Chicago with
> a man with a wooden leg named Smith
> who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
> So I bit him.
>
>
> "Dennis" <Den***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:51E6EBF4-622C-49BF-BFAB-5ABD770E4BA2@microsoft.com...
>> Any chance you can educate some of us on the abbreviations like RTM, CTP,
>> etc.?  Any info would be appreciated...or maybe  webiste that can explain
>> these abbv's.
>> --
>> Dennis in Houston
>>
>>
>> "Kevin Spencer" wrote:
>>
>>> WWF  RTM, VS EXT 4 WPF, WCF CTP, AFAIK ROFLMOD, OK?
>>>
>>> --
>>> WTF OK,
>>>
>>> KS
>>> MS MVP
>>> MSD
>>> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> I just flew in from Chicago with
>>> a man with a wooden leg named Smith
>>> who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
>>> So I bit him.
>>>
>>>
>>> "chanmm" <chan***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uaBI0pjAHHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> > Hello, hello is this RTM??? or still RC???
>>> >
>>> > chanmm
>>> >
>>> > "Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]" <spam.netmaster@swissonline.ch> wrote in
>>> > message news:OnhuG3fAHHA.144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> >> Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Redistributable Package
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10cc340b-f857-4a14-83f5-25634c3bf043
>>> >>
>>> >> Readme
>>> >>
>>> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/support/relnotes/netfx3/default.aspx
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=F54F5537-CC86-4BF5-AE44-F5A1E805680D
>>> >>
>>> >> Final Fidalgo CTP
>>> >>
>>> >> http://blogs.msdn.com/jgalasyn/archive/2006/10/30/october-ctp-and-the-last-build-of-fidalgo.aspx
>>> >>
>>> >> Extensions for Windows Workflow Foundation
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5D61409E-1FA3-48CF-8023-E8F38E709BA6
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
>>> >> http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_dotnet.html - http://dnetmaster.net/
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
Author
8 Nov 2006 12:20 AM
RobinS
Gee, I thought it was "Rolling on the floor like my old dog."

Robin S.

Show quote
"Dave Sexton" <dave@jwa[remove.this]online.com> wrote in message
news:ezWc2bsAHHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> ROFLMOD = Rolling on the Floor... (have to leave a little mystery for
>> you!)
>
> Rolling on floor, lost my one dollar?
>
> That's a shame - you should be more careful next time :p
>
> --
> Dave Sexton
>
> "Kevin Spencer" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
> news:OKxgITsAHHA.2316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> "Dennis" <Den***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:51E6EBF4-622C-49BF-BFAB-5ABD770E4BA2@microsoft.com...
>>> Any chance you can educate some of us on the abbreviations like RTM,
>>> CTP,
>>> etc.?  Any info would be appreciated...or maybe  webiste that can
>>> explain
>>> these abbv's.
>>> --
>>> Dennis in Houston
>>>
>>
>> WWF = Windows WorkFlow Foundation
>> RTM = Release To Manufacturers
>> VS = Visual Studio
>> EXT = Extensions
>> 4 = For
>> WPF = Windows Presentation Foundation
>> WCF = Windows Communication Foundation
>> CTP = Community Technology Preview
>> AFAIK = As Far As I Know
>> ROFLMOD = Rolling on the Floor... (have to leave a little mystery for
>> you!)
>> OK = All Correct
>> WTF = What the F***
>> KS = Kevin Spencer
>> MS MVP = Microsoft MostValuable Professional
>> MSD = Ministry of Software Development
>>
>> Sorry, I couldn't resist, with all those acronyms floating around. I got
>> a little carried away!
>>
>> --
>> ;-), = (Winky Face)
>>
>> Kevin Spencer
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Ministry of Software Development
>> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>>
>> I just flew in from Chicago with
>> a man with a wooden leg named Smith
>> who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
>> So I bit him.
>>
>>
>> "Dennis" <Den***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:51E6EBF4-622C-49BF-BFAB-5ABD770E4BA2@microsoft.com...
>>> Any chance you can educate some of us on the abbreviations like RTM,
>>> CTP,
>>> etc.?  Any info would be appreciated...or maybe  webiste that can
>>> explain
>>> these abbv's.
>>> --
>>> Dennis in Houston
>>>
>>>
>>> "Kevin Spencer" wrote:
>>>
>>>> WWF  RTM, VS EXT 4 WPF, WCF CTP, AFAIK ROFLMOD, OK?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WTF OK,
>>>>
>>>> KS
>>>> MS MVP
>>>> MSD
>>>> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>> I just flew in from Chicago with
>>>> a man with a wooden leg named Smith
>>>> who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
>>>> So I bit him.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "chanmm" <chan***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uaBI0pjAHHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> > Hello, hello is this RTM??? or still RC???
>>>> >
>>>> > chanmm
>>>> >
>>>> > "Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]" <spam.netmaster@swissonline.ch> wrote in
>>>> > message news:OnhuG3fAHHA.144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> >> Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Redistributable Package
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10cc340b-f857-4a14-83f5-25634c3bf043
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Readme
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/support/relnotes/netfx3/default.aspx
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=F54F5537-CC86-4BF5-AE44-F5A1E805680D
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Final Fidalgo CTP
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://blogs.msdn.com/jgalasyn/archive/2006/10/30/october-ctp-and-the-last-build-of-fidalgo.aspx
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Extensions for Windows Workflow Foundation
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5D61409E-1FA3-48CF-8023-E8F38E709BA6
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
>>>> >> http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_dotnet.html - http://dnetmaster.net/
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
8 Nov 2006 2:12 PM
Kevin Spencer
> Gee, I thought it was "Rolling on the floor like my old dog."

As my Uncle Chutney sez:

Ambiguity has a certain quality to it.

--
;-),

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Ministry of Software Development
http://unclechutney.blogspot.com

I just flew in from Chicago with
a man with a wooden leg named Smith
who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
So I bit him.


Show quote
"RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
news:RsmdnSsmdO1Vv8zYnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Gee, I thought it was "Rolling on the floor like my old dog."
>
> Robin S.
>
> "Dave Sexton" <dave@jwa[remove.this]online.com> wrote in message
> news:ezWc2bsAHHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> ROFLMOD = Rolling on the Floor... (have to leave a little mystery for
>>> you!)
>>
>> Rolling on floor, lost my one dollar?
>>
>> That's a shame - you should be more careful next time :p
>>
>> --
>> Dave Sexton
>>
>> "Kevin Spencer" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
>> news:OKxgITsAHHA.2316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> "Dennis" <Den***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:51E6EBF4-622C-49BF-BFAB-5ABD770E4BA2@microsoft.com...
>>>> Any chance you can educate some of us on the abbreviations like RTM,
>>>> CTP,
>>>> etc.?  Any info would be appreciated...or maybe  webiste that can
>>>> explain
>>>> these abbv's.
>>>> --
>>>> Dennis in Houston
>>>>
>>>
>>> WWF = Windows WorkFlow Foundation
>>> RTM = Release To Manufacturers
>>> VS = Visual Studio
>>> EXT = Extensions
>>> 4 = For
>>> WPF = Windows Presentation Foundation
>>> WCF = Windows Communication Foundation
>>> CTP = Community Technology Preview
>>> AFAIK = As Far As I Know
>>> ROFLMOD = Rolling on the Floor... (have to leave a little mystery for
>>> you!)
>>> OK = All Correct
>>> WTF = What the F***
>>> KS = Kevin Spencer
>>> MS MVP = Microsoft MostValuable Professional
>>> MSD = Ministry of Software Development
>>>
>>> Sorry, I couldn't resist, with all those acronyms floating around. I got
>>> a little carried away!
>>>
>>> --
>>> ;-), = (Winky Face)
>>>
>>> Kevin Spencer
>>> Microsoft MVP
>>> Ministry of Software Development
>>> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> I just flew in from Chicago with
>>> a man with a wooden leg named Smith
>>> who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
>>> So I bit him.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dennis" <Den***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:51E6EBF4-622C-49BF-BFAB-5ABD770E4BA2@microsoft.com...
>>>> Any chance you can educate some of us on the abbreviations like RTM,
>>>> CTP,
>>>> etc.?  Any info would be appreciated...or maybe  webiste that can
>>>> explain
>>>> these abbv's.
>>>> --
>>>> Dennis in Houston
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Kevin Spencer" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> WWF  RTM, VS EXT 4 WPF, WCF CTP, AFAIK ROFLMOD, OK?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WTF OK,
>>>>>
>>>>> KS
>>>>> MS MVP
>>>>> MSD
>>>>> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>>>>>
>>>>> I just flew in from Chicago with
>>>>> a man with a wooden leg named Smith
>>>>> who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
>>>>> So I bit him.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "chanmm" <chan***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uaBI0pjAHHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> > Hello, hello is this RTM??? or still RC???
>>>>> >
>>>>> > chanmm
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]" <spam.netmaster@swissonline.ch> wrote in
>>>>> > message news:OnhuG3fAHHA.144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> >> Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Redistributable Package
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10cc340b-f857-4a14-83f5-25634c3bf043
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Readme
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/support/relnotes/netfx3/default.aspx
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=F54F5537-CC86-4BF5-AE44-F5A1E805680D
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Final Fidalgo CTP
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> http://blogs.msdn.com/jgalasyn/archive/2006/10/30/october-ctp-and-the-last-build-of-fidalgo.aspx
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Extensions for Windows Workflow Foundation
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5D61409E-1FA3-48CF-8023-E8F38E709BA6
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
>>>>> >> http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_dotnet.html - http://dnetmaster.net/
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
17 Nov 2006 4:04 AM
Mike C#
"Dave Sexton" <dave@jwa[remove.this]online.com> wrote in message
news:ezWc2bsAHHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> ROFLMOD = Rolling on the Floor... (have to leave a little mystery for
>> you!)
>
> Rolling on floor, lost my one dollar?

Rolling On Floor Laughing "Remainder of Division"
Author
17 Nov 2006 12:03 PM
Kevin Spencer
Dave had 4 out of 7 right...

--
;-P

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Ministry of Software Development
http://unclechutney.blogspot.com

Any experience you can walk away from
is a good one.



Show quote
"Mike C#" <x**@xyz.com> wrote in message
news:Dxa7h.376$Jm2.239@newsfe08.lga...
>
> "Dave Sexton" <dave@jwa[remove.this]online.com> wrote in message
> news:ezWc2bsAHHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> ROFLMOD = Rolling on the Floor... (have to leave a little mystery for
>>> you!)
>>
>> Rolling on floor, lost my one dollar?
>
> Rolling On Floor Laughing "Remainder of Division"
>
Author
17 Nov 2006 12:33 PM
Dave Sexton
Hi Kevin,

And I was only going for 3 ;)

--
Dave Sexton

Show quote
"Kevin Spencer" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
news:OR2%23lBkCHHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Dave had 4 out of 7 right...
>
> --
> ;-P
>
> Kevin Spencer
> Microsoft MVP
> Ministry of Software Development
> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>
> Any experience you can walk away from
> is a good one.
>
>
>
> "Mike C#" <x**@xyz.com> wrote in message
> news:Dxa7h.376$Jm2.239@newsfe08.lga...
>>
>> "Dave Sexton" <dave@jwa[remove.this]online.com> wrote in message
>> news:ezWc2bsAHHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> ROFLMOD = Rolling on the Floor... (have to leave a little mystery for
>>>> you!)
>>>
>>> Rolling on floor, lost my one dollar?
>>
>> Rolling On Floor Laughing "Remainder of Division"
>>
>
>
Author
8 Nov 2006 12:17 AM
Dennis
Thanks a bunch.  Now all I've got to do is learn the implications of these. 
I did, however, manage to guess a few like VS, Ext, MVP.
--
Dennis in Houston


Show quote
"Kevin Spencer" wrote:

> "Dennis" <Den***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:51E6EBF4-622C-49BF-BFAB-5ABD770E4BA2@microsoft.com...
> > Any chance you can educate some of us on the abbreviations like RTM, CTP,
> > etc.?  Any info would be appreciated...or maybe  webiste that can explain
> > these abbv's.
> > --
> > Dennis in Houston
> >
>
> WWF = Windows WorkFlow Foundation
> RTM = Release To Manufacturers
> VS = Visual Studio
> EXT = Extensions
> 4 = For
> WPF = Windows Presentation Foundation
> WCF = Windows Communication Foundation
> CTP = Community Technology Preview
> AFAIK = As Far As I Know
> ROFLMOD = Rolling on the Floor... (have to leave a little mystery for you!)
> OK = All Correct
> WTF = What the F***
> KS = Kevin Spencer
> MS MVP = Microsoft MostValuable Professional
> MSD = Ministry of Software Development
>
> Sorry, I couldn't resist, with all those acronyms floating around. I got a
> little carried away!
>
> --
> ;-), = (Winky Face)
>
> Kevin Spencer
> Microsoft MVP
> Ministry of Software Development
> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>
> I just flew in from Chicago with
> a man with a wooden leg named Smith
> who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
> So I bit him.
>
>
> "Dennis" <Den***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:51E6EBF4-622C-49BF-BFAB-5ABD770E4BA2@microsoft.com...
> > Any chance you can educate some of us on the abbreviations like RTM, CTP,
> > etc.?  Any info would be appreciated...or maybe  webiste that can explain
> > these abbv's.
> > --
> > Dennis in Houston
> >
> >
> > "Kevin Spencer" wrote:
> >
> >> WWF  RTM, VS EXT 4 WPF, WCF CTP, AFAIK ROFLMOD, OK?
> >>
> >> --
> >> WTF OK,
> >>
> >> KS
> >> MS MVP
> >> MSD
> >> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
> >>
> >> I just flew in from Chicago with
> >> a man with a wooden leg named Smith
> >> who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
> >> So I bit him.
> >>
> >>
> >> "chanmm" <chan***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:uaBI0pjAHHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> > Hello, hello is this RTM??? or still RC???
> >> >
> >> > chanmm
> >> >
> >> > "Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]" <spam.netmaster@swissonline.ch> wrote in
> >> > message news:OnhuG3fAHHA.144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Redistributable Package
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10cc340b-f857-4a14-83f5-25634c3bf043
> >> >>
> >> >> Readme
> >> >>
> >> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/support/relnotes/netfx3/default.aspx
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=F54F5537-CC86-4BF5-AE44-F5A1E805680D
> >> >>
> >> >> Final Fidalgo CTP
> >> >>
> >> >> http://blogs.msdn.com/jgalasyn/archive/2006/10/30/october-ctp-and-the-last-build-of-fidalgo.aspx
> >> >>
> >> >> Extensions for Windows Workflow Foundation
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5D61409E-1FA3-48CF-8023-E8F38E709BA6
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
> >> >> http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_dotnet.html - http://dnetmaster.net/
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
Author
8 Nov 2006 2:29 AM
Laurent Bugnion
Hi,

Dennis wrote:
> Thanks a bunch.  Now all I've got to do is learn the implications of these. 
> I did, however, manage to guess a few like VS, Ext, MVP.

Probably up to 60% of the time of any software developer nowadays is
spent learning what the heck the abbreviations mean ;-)

HTH, (hope that helps)
Laurent
--
Laurent Bugnion, GalaSoft
Software engineering: http://www.galasoft-LB.ch
PhotoAlbum: http://www.galasoft-LB.ch/pictures
Support children in Calcutta: http://www.calcutta-espoir.ch
Author
8 Nov 2006 2:10 PM
Kevin Spencer
Hi Dennis,

You  can find most or all of this informatin here:

http://wf.netfx3.com/
Show quote
"Dennis" <Den***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9921FE3C-E566-4D2D-8C4E-1BC6B2071E24@microsoft.com...
> Thanks a bunch.  Now all I've got to do is learn the implications of
> these.
> I did, however, manage to guess a few like VS, Ext, MVP.
> --
> Dennis in Houston
>
>
> "Kevin Spencer" wrote:
>
>> "Dennis" <Den***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:51E6EBF4-622C-49BF-BFAB-5ABD770E4BA2@microsoft.com...
>> > Any chance you can educate some of us on the abbreviations like RTM,
>> > CTP,
>> > etc.?  Any info would be appreciated...or maybe  webiste that can
>> > explain
>> > these abbv's.
>> > --
>> > Dennis in Houston
>> >
>>
>> WWF = Windows WorkFlow Foundation
>> RTM = Release To Manufacturers
>> VS = Visual Studio
>> EXT = Extensions
>> 4 = For
>> WPF = Windows Presentation Foundation
>> WCF = Windows Communication Foundation
>> CTP = Community Technology Preview
>> AFAIK = As Far As I Know
>> ROFLMOD = Rolling on the Floor... (have to leave a little mystery for
>> you!)
>> OK = All Correct
>> WTF = What the F***
>> KS = Kevin Spencer
>> MS MVP = Microsoft MostValuable Professional
>> MSD = Ministry of Software Development
>>
>> Sorry, I couldn't resist, with all those acronyms floating around. I got
>> a
>> little carried away!
>>
>> --
>> ;-), = (Winky Face)
>>
>> Kevin Spencer
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Ministry of Software Development
>> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>>
>> I just flew in from Chicago with
>> a man with a wooden leg named Smith
>> who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
>> So I bit him.
>>
>>
>> "Dennis" <Den***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:51E6EBF4-622C-49BF-BFAB-5ABD770E4BA2@microsoft.com...
>> > Any chance you can educate some of us on the abbreviations like RTM,
>> > CTP,
>> > etc.?  Any info would be appreciated...or maybe  webiste that can
>> > explain
>> > these abbv's.
>> > --
>> > Dennis in Houston
>> >
>> >
>> > "Kevin Spencer" wrote:
>> >
>> >> WWF  RTM, VS EXT 4 WPF, WCF CTP, AFAIK ROFLMOD, OK?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> WTF OK,
>> >>
>> >> KS
>> >> MS MVP
>> >> MSD
>> >> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>> >>
>> >> I just flew in from Chicago with
>> >> a man with a wooden leg named Smith
>> >> who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
>> >> So I bit him.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "chanmm" <chan***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:uaBI0pjAHHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Hello, hello is this RTM??? or still RC???
>> >> >
>> >> > chanmm
>> >> >
>> >> > "Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]" <spam.netmaster@swissonline.ch> wrote in
>> >> > message news:OnhuG3fAHHA.144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Redistributable Package
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10cc340b-f857-4a14-83f5-25634c3bf043
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Readme
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/support/relnotes/netfx3/default.aspx
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=F54F5537-CC86-4BF5-AE44-F5A1E805680D
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Final Fidalgo CTP
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://blogs.msdn.com/jgalasyn/archive/2006/10/30/october-ctp-and-the-last-build-of-fidalgo.aspx
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Extensions for Windows Workflow Foundation
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5D61409E-1FA3-48CF-8023-E8F38E709BA6
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
>> >> >> http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_dotnet.html - http://dnetmaster.net/
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
Author
8 Nov 2006 2:10 PM
Kevin Spencer
Oops. Hit the wrong key again...

You can find most of the information you're looking for here:

http://wf.netfx3.com/

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Ministry of Software Development
http://unclechutney.blogspot.com

I just flew in from Chicago with
a man with a wooden leg named Smith
who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
So I bit him.


Show quote
"Dennis" <Den***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9921FE3C-E566-4D2D-8C4E-1BC6B2071E24@microsoft.com...
> Thanks a bunch.  Now all I've got to do is learn the implications of
> these.
> I did, however, manage to guess a few like VS, Ext, MVP.
> --
> Dennis in Houston
>
>
> "Kevin Spencer" wrote:
>
>> "Dennis" <Den***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:51E6EBF4-622C-49BF-BFAB-5ABD770E4BA2@microsoft.com...
>> > Any chance you can educate some of us on the abbreviations like RTM,
>> > CTP,
>> > etc.?  Any info would be appreciated...or maybe  webiste that can
>> > explain
>> > these abbv's.
>> > --
>> > Dennis in Houston
>> >
>>
>> WWF = Windows WorkFlow Foundation
>> RTM = Release To Manufacturers
>> VS = Visual Studio
>> EXT = Extensions
>> 4 = For
>> WPF = Windows Presentation Foundation
>> WCF = Windows Communication Foundation
>> CTP = Community Technology Preview
>> AFAIK = As Far As I Know
>> ROFLMOD = Rolling on the Floor... (have to leave a little mystery for
>> you!)
>> OK = All Correct
>> WTF = What the F***
>> KS = Kevin Spencer
>> MS MVP = Microsoft MostValuable Professional
>> MSD = Ministry of Software Development
>>
>> Sorry, I couldn't resist, with all those acronyms floating around. I got
>> a
>> little carried away!
>>
>> --
>> ;-), = (Winky Face)
>>
>> Kevin Spencer
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Ministry of Software Development
>> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>>
>> I just flew in from Chicago with
>> a man with a wooden leg named Smith
>> who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
>> So I bit him.
>>
>>
>> "Dennis" <Den***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:51E6EBF4-622C-49BF-BFAB-5ABD770E4BA2@microsoft.com...
>> > Any chance you can educate some of us on the abbreviations like RTM,
>> > CTP,
>> > etc.?  Any info would be appreciated...or maybe  webiste that can
>> > explain
>> > these abbv's.
>> > --
>> > Dennis in Houston
>> >
>> >
>> > "Kevin Spencer" wrote:
>> >
>> >> WWF  RTM, VS EXT 4 WPF, WCF CTP, AFAIK ROFLMOD, OK?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> WTF OK,
>> >>
>> >> KS
>> >> MS MVP
>> >> MSD
>> >> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>> >>
>> >> I just flew in from Chicago with
>> >> a man with a wooden leg named Smith
>> >> who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
>> >> So I bit him.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "chanmm" <chan***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:uaBI0pjAHHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Hello, hello is this RTM??? or still RC???
>> >> >
>> >> > chanmm
>> >> >
>> >> > "Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]" <spam.netmaster@swissonline.ch> wrote in
>> >> > message news:OnhuG3fAHHA.144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Redistributable Package
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10cc340b-f857-4a14-83f5-25634c3bf043
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Readme
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/support/relnotes/netfx3/default.aspx
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=F54F5537-CC86-4BF5-AE44-F5A1E805680D
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Final Fidalgo CTP
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://blogs.msdn.com/jgalasyn/archive/2006/10/30/october-ctp-and-the-last-build-of-fidalgo.aspx
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Extensions for Windows Workflow Foundation
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5D61409E-1FA3-48CF-8023-E8F38E709BA6
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
>> >> >> http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_dotnet.html - http://dnetmaster.net/
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
Author
17 Nov 2006 9:31 AM
Ben Newsam
On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 16:17:02 -0800, Dennis
<Den***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Thanks a bunch.  Now all I've got to do is learn the implications of these. 
>I did, however, manage to guess a few like VS, Ext, MVP.

They're just TLAs.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
Author
8 Nov 2006 6:35 AM
PS
So what Kevin was really trying to say is that

AFAIK .NET 3.0 FW is RTM but WWF/WFP/WCF EXT 4 VS are CTP

Show quote
"Kevin Spencer" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
news:OKxgITsAHHA.2316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "Dennis" <Den***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:51E6EBF4-622C-49BF-BFAB-5ABD770E4BA2@microsoft.com...
>> Any chance you can educate some of us on the abbreviations like RTM, CTP,
>> etc.?  Any info would be appreciated...or maybe  webiste that can explain
>> these abbv's.
>> --
>> Dennis in Houston
>>
>
> WWF = Windows WorkFlow Foundation
> RTM = Release To Manufacturers
> VS = Visual Studio
> EXT = Extensions
> 4 = For
> WPF = Windows Presentation Foundation
> WCF = Windows Communication Foundation
> CTP = Community Technology Preview
> AFAIK = As Far As I Know
> ROFLMOD = Rolling on the Floor... (have to leave a little mystery for
> you!)
> OK = All Correct
> WTF = What the F***
> KS = Kevin Spencer
> MS MVP = Microsoft MostValuable Professional
> MSD = Ministry of Software Development
>
> Sorry, I couldn't resist, with all those acronyms floating around. I got a
> little carried away!
>
> --
> ;-), = (Winky Face)
>
> Kevin Spencer
> Microsoft MVP
> Ministry of Software Development
> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>
> I just flew in from Chicago with
> a man with a wooden leg named Smith
> who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
> So I bit him.
>
>
> "Dennis" <Den***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:51E6EBF4-622C-49BF-BFAB-5ABD770E4BA2@microsoft.com...
>> Any chance you can educate some of us on the abbreviations like RTM, CTP,
>> etc.?  Any info would be appreciated...or maybe  webiste that can explain
>> these abbv's.
>> --
>> Dennis in Houston
>>
>>
>> "Kevin Spencer" wrote:
>>
>>> WWF  RTM, VS EXT 4 WPF, WCF CTP, AFAIK ROFLMOD, OK?
>>>
>>> --
>>> WTF OK,
>>>
>>> KS
>>> MS MVP
>>> MSD
>>> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> I just flew in from Chicago with
>>> a man with a wooden leg named Smith
>>> who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
>>> So I bit him.
>>>
>>>
>>> "chanmm" <chan***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uaBI0pjAHHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> > Hello, hello is this RTM??? or still RC???
>>> >
>>> > chanmm
>>> >
>>> > "Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]" <spam.netmaster@swissonline.ch> wrote in
>>> > message news:OnhuG3fAHHA.144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> >> Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Redistributable Package
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10cc340b-f857-4a14-83f5-25634c3bf043
>>> >>
>>> >> Readme
>>> >>
>>> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/support/relnotes/netfx3/default.aspx
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=F54F5537-CC86-4BF5-AE44-F5A1E805680D
>>> >>
>>> >> Final Fidalgo CTP
>>> >>
>>> >> http://blogs.msdn.com/jgalasyn/archive/2006/10/30/october-ctp-and-the-last-build-of-fidalgo.aspx
>>> >>
>>> >> Extensions for Windows Workflow Foundation
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5D61409E-1FA3-48CF-8023-E8F38E709BA6
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
>>> >> http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_dotnet.html - http://dnetmaster.net/
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
Author
8 Nov 2006 10:53 AM
Phill W.
PS wrote:
> So what Kevin was really trying to say is that
>
> AFAIK .NET 3.0 FW is RTM but WWF/WFP/WCF EXT 4 VS are CTP

ACK.   ;-)

and, for anyone who hasn't found it yet...

http://www.acronymfinder.com/

Regards,
    Phill  W.
Author
7 Nov 2006 10:07 AM
Dylan Parry
Thomas Scheidegger [MVP] wrote:

> Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0
[...]

So if I install these, will I still be able to compile libraries against
the 2.0 framework?

--
Dylan Parry
http://electricfreedom.org | http://webpageworkshop.co.uk

Programming, n: A pastime similar to banging one's head
against a wall, but with fewer opportunities for reward.
Author
7 Nov 2006 11:02 AM
Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]
>> Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0
    > So if I install these, will I still be able to compile libraries against the 2.0 framework?

yes, as the compiler and runtime remains the same (2.0)

With the 'Visual Studio 2005 extensions',
you just get some _additional_ project templates/wizards/editors for building WPF/3.0... applications.



--
Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_dotnet.html - http://dnetmaster.net/
Author
7 Nov 2006 3:14 PM
Dylan Parry
Thomas Scheidegger [MVP] wrote:
>>> Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0
>>
>> So if I install these, will I still be able to compile libraries
>> against the 2.0 framework?
>
> yes, as the compiler and runtime remains the same (2.0)

Well that confused the hell out of me, so I decided to read up on it
all. What has caused confusion is the choice of name ".Net 3.0" when it
isn't really in fact a new version of .Net (ie. an upgrade from C# 2.0
to C# 3.0, or anything like that) but merely the *addition* of some
other bits to the existing 2.0 framework.

So I've come to realise that as a Web developer using .Net, this is of
absolutely no use to me :(

--
Dylan Parry
http://electricfreedom.org | http://webpageworkshop.co.uk

Programming, n: A pastime similar to banging one's head
against a wall, but with fewer opportunities for reward.
Author
7 Nov 2006 5:38 PM
Mark Rae
"Dylan Parry" <use***@dylanparry.com> wrote in message
news:4rbm7cFqg41fU1@mid.individual.net...

> So I've come to realise that as a Web developer using .Net, this is of
> absolutely no use to me :(

I'm with you on that...
Author
7 Nov 2006 5:50 PM
Kevin Spencer
I wouldn't be so sure of that. Using WPF XAML
(http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms754130.aspx), you can
create XAML Browser Applications
(http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms749326.aspx), which
are . Net applications hosted in a browser interface, but use XAML as the
markup language.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Ministry of Software Development
http://unclechutney.blogspot.com

I just flew in from Chicago with
a man with a wooden leg named Smith
who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
So I bit him.




Show quote
"Mark Rae" <mark@markNOSPAMrae.com> wrote in message
news:eSlCAOpAHHA.3536@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> "Dylan Parry" <use***@dylanparry.com> wrote in message
> news:4rbm7cFqg41fU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>> So I've come to realise that as a Web developer using .Net, this is of
>> absolutely no use to me :(
>
> I'm with you on that...
>
Author
7 Nov 2006 6:55 PM
William Stacey [C# MVP]
Also got WCF, InfoCard, and WF.  There is more to web apps (or any app) then
just the UI.

--
William Stacey [C# MVP]

Show quote
"Kevin Spencer" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
news:u1QxcUpAHHA.4256@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|I wouldn't be so sure of that. Using WPF XAML
| (http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms754130.aspx), you
can
| create XAML Browser Applications
| (http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms749326.aspx), which
| are . Net applications hosted in a browser interface, but use XAML as the
| markup language.
|
| --
| HTH,
|
| Kevin Spencer
| Microsoft MVP
| Ministry of Software Development
| http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
|
| I just flew in from Chicago with
| a man with a wooden leg named Smith
| who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
| So I bit him.
|
|
|
|
| "Mark Rae" <mark@markNOSPAMrae.com> wrote in message
| news:eSlCAOpAHHA.3536@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > "Dylan Parry" <use***@dylanparry.com> wrote in message
| > news:4rbm7cFqg41fU1@mid.individual.net...
| >
| >> So I've come to realise that as a Web developer using .Net, this is of
| >> absolutely no use to me :(
| >
| > I'm with you on that...
| >
|
|

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