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How many people have .NET 2.0?

Author
3 Nov 2006 7:05 PM
Nathan Funk
I develop end-user apps and would like to access stats about how many
people have .NET 2.0 installed on their computers.

My new app will rely on the 2.0 framework, but now I'm second-guessing
myself as to whether this was a wise choice. With the 20MB framework
download, it is significant.

I am not even sure whether the 2.0 framework was pushed out
automatically with windows updates, or whether I downloaded it myself.

Any help to pointers to resources would be appreciated (this topic is
hard to Google)!

Thanks!

Nathan

Author
3 Nov 2006 8:42 PM
Andy
Can you include the framework on your distribution media?  20 mb isn't
that large anymore, and those on dial aren't likely to download your
application either.

Nathan Funk wrote:
Show quote
> I develop end-user apps and would like to access stats about how many
> people have .NET 2.0 installed on their computers.
>
> My new app will rely on the 2.0 framework, but now I'm second-guessing
> myself as to whether this was a wise choice. With the 20MB framework
> download, it is significant.
>
> I am not even sure whether the 2.0 framework was pushed out
> automatically with windows updates, or whether I downloaded it myself.
>
> Any help to pointers to resources would be appreciated (this topic is
> hard to Google)!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Nathan
Author
3 Nov 2006 11:35 PM
Kevin Spencer
Hi Nathan,

Microsoft is the world's most successful software company, and they are
investing heavily in it. That ought to tell you something.

Check out the Microsoft MSDN .Net Framework Developer Center:

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/netframework/default.aspx

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Ministry of Software Development
http://unclechutney.blogspot.com

I just flew in from Chicago with
a man with a wooden leg named Smith
who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
So I bit him.


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"Nathan Funk" <nathan.f***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162580706.385793.155330@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I develop end-user apps and would like to access stats about how many
> people have .NET 2.0 installed on their computers.
>
> My new app will rely on the 2.0 framework, but now I'm second-guessing
> myself as to whether this was a wise choice. With the 20MB framework
> download, it is significant.
>
> I am not even sure whether the 2.0 framework was pushed out
> automatically with windows updates, or whether I downloaded it myself.
>
> Any help to pointers to resources would be appreciated (this topic is
> hard to Google)!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Nathan
>
Author
4 Nov 2006 6:26 PM
Nathan Funk
But does anybody know actual numbers on the percentages for:

- no .NET
- .NET 1.1
- .NET 2.0

Another question is - did Microsoft push out .NET 2.0 together with a
service pack (SP2?) at some point? I read that .NET 1.1 was in SP1.

Thanks,

Nathan


Kevin Spencer wrote:
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> Hi Nathan,
>
> Microsoft is the world's most successful software company, and they are
> investing heavily in it. That ought to tell you something.
>
> Check out the Microsoft MSDN .Net Framework Developer Center:
>
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/netframework/default.aspx
>
> --
> HTH,
>
> Kevin Spencer
> Microsoft MVP
> Ministry of Software Development
> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>
> I just flew in from Chicago with
> a man with a wooden leg named Smith
> who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
> So I bit him.
>
>
> "Nathan Funk" <nathan.f***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1162580706.385793.155330@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >I develop end-user apps and would like to access stats about how many
> > people have .NET 2.0 installed on their computers.
> >
> > My new app will rely on the 2.0 framework, but now I'm second-guessing
> > myself as to whether this was a wise choice. With the 20MB framework
> > download, it is significant.
> >
> > I am not even sure whether the 2.0 framework was pushed out
> > automatically with windows updates, or whether I downloaded it myself.
> >
> > Any help to pointers to resources would be appreciated (this topic is
> > hard to Google)!
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Nathan
> >
Author
4 Nov 2006 9:37 PM
Kevin Spencer
It really doesn't matter. The Framework doesn't have to be downloaded. It
can be part of your Setup.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Ministry of Software Development
http://unclechutney.blogspot.com

I just flew in from Chicago with
a man with a wooden leg named Smith
who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
So I bit him.


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"Nathan Funk" <nathan.f***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162664779.683880.157270@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> But does anybody know actual numbers on the percentages for:
>
> - no .NET
> - .NET 1.1
> - .NET 2.0
>
> Another question is - did Microsoft push out .NET 2.0 together with a
> service pack (SP2?) at some point? I read that .NET 1.1 was in SP1.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nathan
>
>
> Kevin Spencer wrote:
>> Hi Nathan,
>>
>> Microsoft is the world's most successful software company, and they are
>> investing heavily in it. That ought to tell you something.
>>
>> Check out the Microsoft MSDN .Net Framework Developer Center:
>>
>> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/netframework/default.aspx
>>
>> --
>> HTH,
>>
>> Kevin Spencer
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Ministry of Software Development
>> http://unclechutney.blogspot.com
>>
>> I just flew in from Chicago with
>> a man with a wooden leg named Smith
>> who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
>> So I bit him.
>>
>>
>> "Nathan Funk" <nathan.f***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1162580706.385793.155330@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> >I develop end-user apps and would like to access stats about how many
>> > people have .NET 2.0 installed on their computers.
>> >
>> > My new app will rely on the 2.0 framework, but now I'm second-guessing
>> > myself as to whether this was a wise choice. With the 20MB framework
>> > download, it is significant.
>> >
>> > I am not even sure whether the 2.0 framework was pushed out
>> > automatically with windows updates, or whether I downloaded it myself.
>> >
>> > Any help to pointers to resources would be appreciated (this topic is
>> > hard to Google)!
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > Nathan
>> >
>
Author
4 Nov 2006 9:16 PM
PS
"Nathan Funk" <nathan.f***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162580706.385793.155330@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I develop end-user apps and would like to access stats about how many
> people have .NET 2.0 installed on their computers.

I can assure you that at some point you will run into someone that does not
have the 2.0 framework on their computer. Lets say I told you that X% of PCs
that support the 2.0 framework already have it installed then how would this
influence your decision if I told you X was 25 or X was 85.

PS

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>
> My new app will rely on the 2.0 framework, but now I'm second-guessing
> myself as to whether this was a wise choice. With the 20MB framework
> download, it is significant.
>
> I am not even sure whether the 2.0 framework was pushed out
> automatically with windows updates, or whether I downloaded it myself.
>
> Any help to pointers to resources would be appreciated (this topic is
> hard to Google)!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Nathan
>
Author
5 Nov 2006 11:07 PM
Nathan Funk
I believe people care whether an app is 1MB or 20MB. I believe they
also care whether they have to install more than just the program or
not... Installing a framework brings along extra baggage, can slow
performance...

So yes, it influences my decision whether X is 25 or 85. I think it's a
pretty important number.

If people are purposely staying away from installing the .NET 2.0
framework on their computers, then I don't want to be writing apps for
it. I doubt that is the case, but if it is, I would like to know.

I'm just surprised that nobody has rough numbers on this... Am I being
overly concerned about something nobody else cares about? Does everyone
take for granted that people will accept .NET 2.0 apps?

Nathan


PS wrote:
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> "Nathan Funk" <nathan.f***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1162580706.385793.155330@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >I develop end-user apps and would like to access stats about how many
> > people have .NET 2.0 installed on their computers.
>
> I can assure you that at some point you will run into someone that does not
> have the 2.0 framework on their computer. Lets say I told you that X% of PCs
> that support the 2.0 framework already have it installed then how would this
> influence your decision if I told you X was 25 or X was 85.
>
> PS
>
> >
> > My new app will rely on the 2.0 framework, but now I'm second-guessing
> > myself as to whether this was a wise choice. With the 20MB framework
> > download, it is significant.
> >
> > I am not even sure whether the 2.0 framework was pushed out
> > automatically with windows updates, or whether I downloaded it myself.
> >
> > Any help to pointers to resources would be appreciated (this topic is
> > hard to Google)!
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Nathan
> >
Author
6 Nov 2006 5:18 AM
PS
"Nathan Funk" <nathan.f***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162768027.866543.83450@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I believe people care whether an app is 1MB or 20MB.

You shouldn't be developing with the .Net framework if you want to target a
market that will allow 100% of your users to be able to download a 1Mb
install.

I believe they
> also care whether they have to install more than just the program or
> not... Installing a framework brings along extra baggage, can slow
> performance...

More reasons not to develop in .Net

>
> So yes, it influences my decision whether X is 25 or 85. I think it's a
> pretty important number.

If it is 85% then you are prepared to lose 15% of your market to people who
do not want to download 20Mb. Then the figure you are really looking for is
not how many computers have .Net 2.0 framework installed but of the X% that
do not have the .Net 2.0 framework installed, how many are prepared to
download 20Mb to install my software and how many are not.

> If people are purposely staying away from installing the .NET 2.0
> framework on their computers, then I don't want to be writing apps for
> it. I doubt that is the case, but if it is, I would like to know.

Again you are looking for a figure on "how many people are staying away from
installing the .Net framework". No one has this figure but these same people
probably don't run Windows either.

>
> I'm just surprised that nobody has rough numbers on this... Am I being
> overly concerned about something nobody else cares about? Does everyone
> take for granted that people will accept .NET 2.0 apps?

Of course we take it for granted, we are .Net developers.

PS

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>
> PS wrote:
>> "Nathan Funk" <nathan.f***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1162580706.385793.155330@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> >I develop end-user apps and would like to access stats about how many
>> > people have .NET 2.0 installed on their computers.
>>
>> I can assure you that at some point you will run into someone that does
>> not
>> have the 2.0 framework on their computer. Lets say I told you that X% of
>> PCs
>> that support the 2.0 framework already have it installed then how would
>> this
>> influence your decision if I told you X was 25 or X was 85.
>>
>> PS
>>
>> >
>> > My new app will rely on the 2.0 framework, but now I'm second-guessing
>> > myself as to whether this was a wise choice. With the 20MB framework
>> > download, it is significant.
>> >
>> > I am not even sure whether the 2.0 framework was pushed out
>> > automatically with windows updates, or whether I downloaded it myself.
>> >
>> > Any help to pointers to resources would be appreciated (this topic is
>> > hard to Google)!
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > Nathan
>> >
>
Author
6 Nov 2006 1:55 AM
Michael D. Ober
NET 2.0 was published as a "Recommended Update" via Microsoft Update last
December or January.

Mike Ober.


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"Nathan Funk" <nathan.f***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162580706.385793.155330@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I develop end-user apps and would like to access stats about how many
> people have .NET 2.0 installed on their computers.
>
> My new app will rely on the 2.0 framework, but now I'm second-guessing
> myself as to whether this was a wise choice. With the 20MB framework
> download, it is significant.
>
> I am not even sure whether the 2.0 framework was pushed out
> automatically with windows updates, or whether I downloaded it myself.
>
> Any help to pointers to resources would be appreciated (this topic is
> hard to Google)!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Nathan
>
>

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