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storing datasetwhat is the prefered method of storing a dataset to a non-database file.
perhaps a binary file? thanks On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 08:25:18 -0400, "gyoder" <georgeyo***@comcast.net> The CSV file (comma separated values) format is convenient and widelywrote: >what is the prefered method of storing a dataset to a non-database file. >perhaps a binary file? > recognized. In general, it is a flat text file, one record per line, with values separated by commas and strings enclosed in quotes. See http://www.creativyst.com/Doc/Articles/CSV/CSV01.htm#FileFormat for more details. Many databases can import these files directly with no further effort on your part except to make sure that the fields in the file correspond to the columns in the database. i really have no need to import the data into a database. i want to be able
to save/store it and reload it again along with other data. so the file would contain data from the dataset and also other data. Show quote "r norman" <NotMyRealEmail@_comcast.net> wrote in message news:skcq929ms33mur2bg8k15s0o31a2a2g4mj@4ax.com... > On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 08:25:18 -0400, "gyoder" <georgeyo***@comcast.net> > wrote: > >>what is the prefered method of storing a dataset to a non-database file. >>perhaps a binary file? >> > > The CSV file (comma separated values) format is convenient and widely > recognized. In general, it is a flat text file, one record per line, > with values separated by commas and strings enclosed in quotes. See > http://www.creativyst.com/Doc/Articles/CSV/CSV01.htm#FileFormat > for more details. > > Many databases can import these files directly with no further effort > on your part except to make sure that the fields in the file > correspond to the columns in the database. > > >
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On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 09:05:17 -0400, "gyoder" <georgeyo***@comcast.net> (I have taken the liberty of "correcting" your top-posting becausewrote: >"r norman" <NotMyRealEmail@_comcast.net> wrote in message >news:skcq929ms33mur2bg8k15s0o31a2a2g4mj@4ax.com... >> On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 08:25:18 -0400, "gyoder" <georgeyo***@comcast.net> >> wrote: >> >>>what is the prefered method of storing a dataset to a non-database file. >>>perhaps a binary file? >>> >> >> The CSV file (comma separated values) format is convenient and widely >> recognized. In general, it is a flat text file, one record per line, >> with values separated by commas and strings enclosed in quotes. See >> http://www.creativyst.com/Doc/Articles/CSV/CSV01.htm#FileFormat >> for more details. >> >> Many databases can import these files directly with no further effort >> on your part except to make sure that the fields in the file >> correspond to the columns in the database. >> >i really have no need to import the data into a database. i want to be able >to save/store it and reload it again along with other data. so the file >would contain data from the dataset and also other data. > this is the style I prefer) Converting everything from whatever format to ASCII for storing files and then back again when reading them is a big pain. However, being able to easily read the files and so verify that they are being written correctly or chasing down a tricky bug in finding that the value you read back is not the same as the value you write can be a real lifesaver. Also you never know whether, sometime in the future, you might want to import the data into a database or spreadsheet. I find that doing the work of making human-readable files is paid back many times over. You don't have to make them "user friendly" readable, only "readable if you have the details of what fields are in what order." That being said, the simplest way of saving the data is to create a fixed-length data structure to store all the data and then write and read binary files just by byte-copying the data structure to the file and reading it back into the data structure. Or, I should say, that is the simplest way for me. What is "preferred" is whatever you can do easily and works without error. There are no problems provided you are absolutely sure that only your software is ever going to do both the reading and the writing. If you ever have to send a file to somebody else for reading and it is a binary file, you cannot be sure even that the same source code compiled with a different compiler or even a different version of the same compiler will produce a program that can read the binary file unless you take great care in its design. You cannot also be sure that a file you wrote a few years back with one compiler will be readable now with recompiled software. The portability factor alone is worth going with the CSV type file. Note: in the olden days, it was quite simple: you used printf() to write each line and sscanf() with the same format statement to read the lines. It is a little more work now with streams but the same idea applies; make the stream out and the stream in statements exactly parallel and it should work.
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> Of course the easiest way is to save it as an XML file - WriteXML(string>On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 08:25:18 -0400, "gyoder" <georgeyo***@comcast.net> >wrote: > >>what is the prefered method of storing a dataset to a non-database file. >>perhaps a binary file? >> > >The CSV file (comma separated values) format is convenient and widely >recognized. In general, it is a flat text file, one record per line, >with values separated by commas and strings enclosed in quotes. See > http://www.creativyst.com/Doc/Articles/CSV/CSV01.htm#FileFormat >for more details. > >Many databases can import these files directly with no further effort >on your part except to make sure that the fields in the file >correspond to the columns in the database. > fileName) as I recall. The DataSet is XML, which is rather easy to read. If you are talking local
storage to be used like a database, it would depend on the size, however, as a huge DataSet would take awhile to load. For local storage, I would consider some "light" database engine. There are a few open source implementations that would work. Without knowing more about the project, that is about all I can offer. -- Show quoteGregory A. Beamer ************************************************* Think Outside the Box! ************************************************* "gyoder" <georgeyo***@comcast.net> wrote in message news:faWdnfkMbMq7sgDZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com... > what is the prefered method of storing a dataset to a non-database file. > perhaps a binary file? > > thanks > > Serialization is the way to go. Either XML or binary (assuming you are on
..net 2.0). There is also DataSet.WriteXml/ReadXml pair you might find convenient. -- Show quoteMiha Markic [MVP C#, INETA Country Leader for Slovenia] RightHand .NET consulting & development www.rthand.com Blog: http://cs.rthand.com/blogs/blog_with_righthand/ "gyoder" <georgeyo***@comcast.net> wrote in message news:faWdnfkMbMq7sgDZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com... > what is the prefered method of storing a dataset to a non-database file. > perhaps a binary file? > > thanks > > Could you please expand upon "serialization". Perhaps binanry. Im on .net
2.0. Thanks Show quote "Miha Markic [MVP C#]" <miha at rthand com> wrote in message news:OxSRaC5lGHA.1488@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Serialization is the way to go. Either XML or binary (assuming you are on > .net 2.0). There is also DataSet.WriteXml/ReadXml pair you might find > convenient. > > -- > Miha Markic [MVP C#, INETA Country Leader for Slovenia] > RightHand .NET consulting & development www.rthand.com > Blog: http://cs.rthand.com/blogs/blog_with_righthand/ > > "gyoder" <georgeyo***@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:faWdnfkMbMq7sgDZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com... >> what is the prefered method of storing a dataset to a non-database file. >> perhaps a binary file? >> >> thanks >> >> > > Hi,
Here you'll find an example: http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=204833&SiteID=1 -- Show quoteMiha Markic [MVP C#, INETA Country Leader for Slovenia] RightHand .NET consulting & development www.rthand.com Blog: http://cs.rthand.com/blogs/blog_with_righthand/ "gyoder" <georgeyo***@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Q8mdnfh83KRuOQDZnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com... > Could you please expand upon "serialization". Perhaps binanry. Im on .net > 2.0. > > Thanks > > > "Miha Markic [MVP C#]" <miha at rthand com> wrote in message > news:OxSRaC5lGHA.1488@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Serialization is the way to go. Either XML or binary (assuming you are on >> .net 2.0). There is also DataSet.WriteXml/ReadXml pair you might find >> convenient. >> >> -- >> Miha Markic [MVP C#, INETA Country Leader for Slovenia] >> RightHand .NET consulting & development www.rthand.com >> Blog: http://cs.rthand.com/blogs/blog_with_righthand/ >> >> "gyoder" <georgeyo***@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:faWdnfkMbMq7sgDZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> what is the prefered method of storing a dataset to a non-database file. >>> perhaps a binary file? >>> >>> thanks >>> >>> >> >> > > |
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