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Author
30 May 2006 3:43 PM
Alex Maghen
I have a class, "MySavableClass." The class has one string property named
"MyID" and then a bunch of other properties.

Ideally, what I'd like to do is write a "Save()" and a "Restore()" method -
or probably static methods for this object that would work as follows:

private MySavableClass MyC = new MySavableClass();
MyC.MyID = "Class1";
MyC.SomeOtherProperty = 1234;

//The next line will cause the class "MyC" to be serialized and then written
//to a two column database tabe. Column 1 will be the ID column which,
//in this case, will be "Class1", and column 2 will be a Text/Memo column
//which will take the entire serialized object.
Success = MySavableClass.Save(MyC);

//Later, I should be able to do this...

private MySavableClass MyCRestored;
MyCRestored = MySavableClass.Restore("Class1");
if(MyCRestored == null)
  //Restoration failed!
else
  Writeln("MyCRestored.SomeOtherProperty = " +
               MyCRestored.SomeOtherProperty.ToString());

etc., etc.

All of this doesn't seem that hard but I have a few questions:

1. Do I have to set up any meta-tagging on my calss to make it serializable
(it's a pretty simple class.

2. Which serialization method should I use if I want to save the data as
text to a database column?

Any other guidance you can provide will be much appreciated.

Alex

Author
30 May 2006 5:10 PM
Greg Young
1) It should be tagged as Serializable
2) You could either use binary or XML serialization.

If you use binary use Convert.ToBase64 before inserting it to your database
and COnvert.FromBase64 when you have read the object. This step is not
required with XML

Cheers,

Greg Young
MVP - C#
http://geekswithblogs.net/gyoung
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"Alex Maghen" <AlexMaghen@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
news:C10EBF12-F50C-444D-B533-5899FEA4A418@microsoft.com...
>I have a class, "MySavableClass." The class has one string property named
> "MyID" and then a bunch of other properties.
>
> Ideally, what I'd like to do is write a "Save()" and a "Restore()"
> method -
> or probably static methods for this object that would work as follows:
>
> private MySavableClass MyC = new MySavableClass();
> MyC.MyID = "Class1";
> MyC.SomeOtherProperty = 1234;
>
> //The next line will cause the class "MyC" to be serialized and then
> written
> //to a two column database tabe. Column 1 will be the ID column which,
> //in this case, will be "Class1", and column 2 will be a Text/Memo column
> //which will take the entire serialized object.
> Success = MySavableClass.Save(MyC);
>
> //Later, I should be able to do this...
>
> private MySavableClass MyCRestored;
> MyCRestored = MySavableClass.Restore("Class1");
> if(MyCRestored == null)
>  //Restoration failed!
> else
>  Writeln("MyCRestored.SomeOtherProperty = " +
>               MyCRestored.SomeOtherProperty.ToString());
>
> etc., etc.
>
> All of this doesn't seem that hard but I have a few questions:
>
> 1. Do I have to set up any meta-tagging on my calss to make it
> serializable
> (it's a pretty simple class.
>
> 2. Which serialization method should I use if I want to save the data as
> text to a database column?
>
> Any other guidance you can provide will be much appreciated.
>
> Alex
>
Author
30 May 2006 5:54 PM
Alex Maghen
Thanks for this. Can youhelp me with the specific syntax for marking the
class "Serializable"?

Alex

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"Greg Young" wrote:

> 1) It should be tagged as Serializable
> 2) You could either use binary or XML serialization.
>
> If you use binary use Convert.ToBase64 before inserting it to your database
> and COnvert.FromBase64 when you have read the object. This step is not
> required with XML
>
> Cheers,
>
> Greg Young
> MVP - C#
> http://geekswithblogs.net/gyoung
> "Alex Maghen" <AlexMaghen@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
> news:C10EBF12-F50C-444D-B533-5899FEA4A418@microsoft.com...
> >I have a class, "MySavableClass." The class has one string property named
> > "MyID" and then a bunch of other properties.
> >
> > Ideally, what I'd like to do is write a "Save()" and a "Restore()"
> > method -
> > or probably static methods for this object that would work as follows:
> >
> > private MySavableClass MyC = new MySavableClass();
> > MyC.MyID = "Class1";
> > MyC.SomeOtherProperty = 1234;
> >
> > //The next line will cause the class "MyC" to be serialized and then
> > written
> > //to a two column database tabe. Column 1 will be the ID column which,
> > //in this case, will be "Class1", and column 2 will be a Text/Memo column
> > //which will take the entire serialized object.
> > Success = MySavableClass.Save(MyC);
> >
> > //Later, I should be able to do this...
> >
> > private MySavableClass MyCRestored;
> > MyCRestored = MySavableClass.Restore("Class1");
> > if(MyCRestored == null)
> >  //Restoration failed!
> > else
> >  Writeln("MyCRestored.SomeOtherProperty = " +
> >               MyCRestored.SomeOtherProperty.ToString());
> >
> > etc., etc.
> >
> > All of this doesn't seem that hard but I have a few questions:
> >
> > 1. Do I have to set up any meta-tagging on my calss to make it
> > serializable
> > (it's a pretty simple class.
> >
> > 2. Which serialization method should I use if I want to save the data as
> > text to a database column?
> >
> > Any other guidance you can provide will be much appreciated.
> >
> > Alex
> >
>
>
>
Author
30 May 2006 9:51 PM
Alex Maghen
One more little thing: I'm a little confused about how I get my hands on the
string that represents that serialized class so that I can pass it along to
write to the database.

If I do...
      Stream stream = File.Open("data.xml", FileMode.Create);
      SoapFormatter formatter = new SoapFormatter();

      formatter.Serialize(stream, obj);

I can wite it to a file. But how do I just get it into a string instead?

Alex



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"Alex Maghen" wrote:

> Thanks for this. Can youhelp me with the specific syntax for marking the
> class "Serializable"?
>
> Alex
>
> "Greg Young" wrote:
>
> > 1) It should be tagged as Serializable
> > 2) You could either use binary or XML serialization.
> >
> > If you use binary use Convert.ToBase64 before inserting it to your database
> > and COnvert.FromBase64 when you have read the object. This step is not
> > required with XML
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Greg Young
> > MVP - C#
> > http://geekswithblogs.net/gyoung
> > "Alex Maghen" <AlexMaghen@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
> > news:C10EBF12-F50C-444D-B533-5899FEA4A418@microsoft.com...
> > >I have a class, "MySavableClass." The class has one string property named
> > > "MyID" and then a bunch of other properties.
> > >
> > > Ideally, what I'd like to do is write a "Save()" and a "Restore()"
> > > method -
> > > or probably static methods for this object that would work as follows:
> > >
> > > private MySavableClass MyC = new MySavableClass();
> > > MyC.MyID = "Class1";
> > > MyC.SomeOtherProperty = 1234;
> > >
> > > //The next line will cause the class "MyC" to be serialized and then
> > > written
> > > //to a two column database tabe. Column 1 will be the ID column which,
> > > //in this case, will be "Class1", and column 2 will be a Text/Memo column
> > > //which will take the entire serialized object.
> > > Success = MySavableClass.Save(MyC);
> > >
> > > //Later, I should be able to do this...
> > >
> > > private MySavableClass MyCRestored;
> > > MyCRestored = MySavableClass.Restore("Class1");
> > > if(MyCRestored == null)
> > >  //Restoration failed!
> > > else
> > >  Writeln("MyCRestored.SomeOtherProperty = " +
> > >               MyCRestored.SomeOtherProperty.ToString());
> > >
> > > etc., etc.
> > >
> > > All of this doesn't seem that hard but I have a few questions:
> > >
> > > 1. Do I have to set up any meta-tagging on my calss to make it
> > > serializable
> > > (it's a pretty simple class.
> > >
> > > 2. Which serialization method should I use if I want to save the data as
> > > text to a database column?
> > >
> > > Any other guidance you can provide will be much appreciated.
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >
> >
> >
> >
Author
30 May 2006 10:33 PM
Greg Young
Use a MemoryStream
http://www.dotgnu.org/pnetlib-doc/System/IO/MemoryStream.html instead of a
FileStream it has a getbytes() method that will give you the relevant bytes.

For the serializable attribute .. it is just [Serializable]

Cheers,

Greg Young
MVP - C#
http://geekswithblogs.net/gyoung


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"Alex Maghen" <AlexMaghen@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
news:8FA5A6E7-291B-4444-B83D-7DB1A4823399@microsoft.com...
> One more little thing: I'm a little confused about how I get my hands on
> the
> string that represents that serialized class so that I can pass it along
> to
> write to the database.
>
> If I do...
>      Stream stream = File.Open("data.xml", FileMode.Create);
>      SoapFormatter formatter = new SoapFormatter();
>
>      formatter.Serialize(stream, obj);
>
> I can wite it to a file. But how do I just get it into a string instead?
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> "Alex Maghen" wrote:
>
>> Thanks for this. Can youhelp me with the specific syntax for marking the
>> class "Serializable"?
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> "Greg Young" wrote:
>>
>> > 1) It should be tagged as Serializable
>> > 2) You could either use binary or XML serialization.
>> >
>> > If you use binary use Convert.ToBase64 before inserting it to your
>> > database
>> > and COnvert.FromBase64 when you have read the object. This step is not
>> > required with XML
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Greg Young
>> > MVP - C#
>> > http://geekswithblogs.net/gyoung
>> > "Alex Maghen" <AlexMaghen@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
>> > news:C10EBF12-F50C-444D-B533-5899FEA4A418@microsoft.com...
>> > >I have a class, "MySavableClass." The class has one string property
>> > >named
>> > > "MyID" and then a bunch of other properties.
>> > >
>> > > Ideally, what I'd like to do is write a "Save()" and a "Restore()"
>> > > method -
>> > > or probably static methods for this object that would work as
>> > > follows:
>> > >
>> > > private MySavableClass MyC = new MySavableClass();
>> > > MyC.MyID = "Class1";
>> > > MyC.SomeOtherProperty = 1234;
>> > >
>> > > //The next line will cause the class "MyC" to be serialized and then
>> > > written
>> > > //to a two column database tabe. Column 1 will be the ID column
>> > > which,
>> > > //in this case, will be "Class1", and column 2 will be a Text/Memo
>> > > column
>> > > //which will take the entire serialized object.
>> > > Success = MySavableClass.Save(MyC);
>> > >
>> > > //Later, I should be able to do this...
>> > >
>> > > private MySavableClass MyCRestored;
>> > > MyCRestored = MySavableClass.Restore("Class1");
>> > > if(MyCRestored == null)
>> > >  //Restoration failed!
>> > > else
>> > >  Writeln("MyCRestored.SomeOtherProperty = " +
>> > >               MyCRestored.SomeOtherProperty.ToString());
>> > >
>> > > etc., etc.
>> > >
>> > > All of this doesn't seem that hard but I have a few questions:
>> > >
>> > > 1. Do I have to set up any meta-tagging on my calss to make it
>> > > serializable
>> > > (it's a pretty simple class.
>> > >
>> > > 2. Which serialization method should I use if I want to save the data
>> > > as
>> > > text to a database column?
>> > >
>> > > Any other guidance you can provide will be much appreciated.
>> > >
>> > > Alex
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
Author
31 May 2006 12:15 AM
Alex Maghen
Greg -

Forgive me for asking you to spoon-feed me this way but this thing is really
breaking my head---

So far, to serialize my object, I'm doing the following...

            BinaryFormatter formatter = new BinaryFormatter();
            MemoryStream MemStream = new MemoryStream();
            formatter.Serialize(MemStream, MyObj);

.... but here's where I get stuck because

1. I don't know how to do the Convert.ToBase64() on this MemoryStream and
2. Don't I have to turn this MemoryStream object into a String before I can
use it to fill the parameter of a SQL query (OleDbParam)? If so, how?

Thanks so much for your help!

Alex




Show quote
"Greg Young" wrote:

> Use a MemoryStream
> http://www.dotgnu.org/pnetlib-doc/System/IO/MemoryStream.html instead of a
> FileStream it has a getbytes() method that will give you the relevant bytes.
>
> For the serializable attribute .. it is just [Serializable]
>
> Cheers,
>
> Greg Young
> MVP - C#
> http://geekswithblogs.net/gyoung
>
>
> "Alex Maghen" <AlexMaghen@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
> news:8FA5A6E7-291B-4444-B83D-7DB1A4823399@microsoft.com...
> > One more little thing: I'm a little confused about how I get my hands on
> > the
> > string that represents that serialized class so that I can pass it along
> > to
> > write to the database.
> >
> > If I do...
> >      Stream stream = File.Open("data.xml", FileMode.Create);
> >      SoapFormatter formatter = new SoapFormatter();
> >
> >      formatter.Serialize(stream, obj);
> >
> > I can wite it to a file. But how do I just get it into a string instead?
> >
> > Alex
> >
> >
> >
> > "Alex Maghen" wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for this. Can youhelp me with the specific syntax for marking the
> >> class "Serializable"?
> >>
> >> Alex
> >>
> >> "Greg Young" wrote:
> >>
> >> > 1) It should be tagged as Serializable
> >> > 2) You could either use binary or XML serialization.
> >> >
> >> > If you use binary use Convert.ToBase64 before inserting it to your
> >> > database
> >> > and COnvert.FromBase64 when you have read the object. This step is not
> >> > required with XML
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> >
> >> > Greg Young
> >> > MVP - C#
> >> > http://geekswithblogs.net/gyoung
> >> > "Alex Maghen" <AlexMaghen@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
> >> > news:C10EBF12-F50C-444D-B533-5899FEA4A418@microsoft.com...
> >> > >I have a class, "MySavableClass." The class has one string property
> >> > >named
> >> > > "MyID" and then a bunch of other properties.
> >> > >
> >> > > Ideally, what I'd like to do is write a "Save()" and a "Restore()"
> >> > > method -
> >> > > or probably static methods for this object that would work as
> >> > > follows:
> >> > >
> >> > > private MySavableClass MyC = new MySavableClass();
> >> > > MyC.MyID = "Class1";
> >> > > MyC.SomeOtherProperty = 1234;
> >> > >
> >> > > //The next line will cause the class "MyC" to be serialized and then
> >> > > written
> >> > > //to a two column database tabe. Column 1 will be the ID column
> >> > > which,
> >> > > //in this case, will be "Class1", and column 2 will be a Text/Memo
> >> > > column
> >> > > //which will take the entire serialized object.
> >> > > Success = MySavableClass.Save(MyC);
> >> > >
> >> > > //Later, I should be able to do this...
> >> > >
> >> > > private MySavableClass MyCRestored;
> >> > > MyCRestored = MySavableClass.Restore("Class1");
> >> > > if(MyCRestored == null)
> >> > >  //Restoration failed!
> >> > > else
> >> > >  Writeln("MyCRestored.SomeOtherProperty = " +
> >> > >               MyCRestored.SomeOtherProperty.ToString());
> >> > >
> >> > > etc., etc.
> >> > >
> >> > > All of this doesn't seem that hard but I have a few questions:
> >> > >
> >> > > 1. Do I have to set up any meta-tagging on my calss to make it
> >> > > serializable
> >> > > (it's a pretty simple class.
> >> > >
> >> > > 2. Which serialization method should I use if I want to save the data
> >> > > as
> >> > > text to a database column?
> >> > >
> >> > > Any other guidance you can provide will be much appreciated.
> >> > >
> >> > > Alex
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
>
>
>
Author
31 May 2006 12:55 AM
Greg Young
MemStream.ToArray will create you a byte array that you can pass to the
COnvert.TOBase64 method
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/cpref/html/frlrfSystemIOMemoryStreamClassToArrayTopic.asp

Cheers,

Greg Young
MVP - C#
http://geekswithblogs.net/gyoung
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"Alex Maghen" <AlexMaghen@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
news:1886B0EF-8FE0-47BB-B22C-4B2693F5CFC1@microsoft.com...
> Greg -
>
> Forgive me for asking you to spoon-feed me this way but this thing is
> really
> breaking my head---
>
> So far, to serialize my object, I'm doing the following...
>
>            BinaryFormatter formatter = new BinaryFormatter();
>            MemoryStream MemStream = new MemoryStream();
>            formatter.Serialize(MemStream, MyObj);
>
> ... but here's where I get stuck because
>
> 1. I don't know how to do the Convert.ToBase64() on this MemoryStream and
> 2. Don't I have to turn this MemoryStream object into a String before I
> can
> use it to fill the parameter of a SQL query (OleDbParam)? If so, how?
>
> Thanks so much for your help!
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
> "Greg Young" wrote:
>
>> Use a MemoryStream
>> http://www.dotgnu.org/pnetlib-doc/System/IO/MemoryStream.html instead of
>> a
>> FileStream it has a getbytes() method that will give you the relevant
>> bytes.
>>
>> For the serializable attribute .. it is just [Serializable]
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Greg Young
>> MVP - C#
>> http://geekswithblogs.net/gyoung
>>
>>
>> "Alex Maghen" <AlexMaghen@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:8FA5A6E7-291B-4444-B83D-7DB1A4823399@microsoft.com...
>> > One more little thing: I'm a little confused about how I get my hands
>> > on
>> > the
>> > string that represents that serialized class so that I can pass it
>> > along
>> > to
>> > write to the database.
>> >
>> > If I do...
>> >      Stream stream = File.Open("data.xml", FileMode.Create);
>> >      SoapFormatter formatter = new SoapFormatter();
>> >
>> >      formatter.Serialize(stream, obj);
>> >
>> > I can wite it to a file. But how do I just get it into a string
>> > instead?
>> >
>> > Alex
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Alex Maghen" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thanks for this. Can youhelp me with the specific syntax for marking
>> >> the
>> >> class "Serializable"?
>> >>
>> >> Alex
>> >>
>> >> "Greg Young" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > 1) It should be tagged as Serializable
>> >> > 2) You could either use binary or XML serialization.
>> >> >
>> >> > If you use binary use Convert.ToBase64 before inserting it to your
>> >> > database
>> >> > and COnvert.FromBase64 when you have read the object. This step is
>> >> > not
>> >> > required with XML
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers,
>> >> >
>> >> > Greg Young
>> >> > MVP - C#
>> >> > http://geekswithblogs.net/gyoung
>> >> > "Alex Maghen" <AlexMaghen@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
>> >> > news:C10EBF12-F50C-444D-B533-5899FEA4A418@microsoft.com...
>> >> > >I have a class, "MySavableClass." The class has one string property
>> >> > >named
>> >> > > "MyID" and then a bunch of other properties.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Ideally, what I'd like to do is write a "Save()" and a "Restore()"
>> >> > > method -
>> >> > > or probably static methods for this object that would work as
>> >> > > follows:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > private MySavableClass MyC = new MySavableClass();
>> >> > > MyC.MyID = "Class1";
>> >> > > MyC.SomeOtherProperty = 1234;
>> >> > >
>> >> > > //The next line will cause the class "MyC" to be serialized and
>> >> > > then
>> >> > > written
>> >> > > //to a two column database tabe. Column 1 will be the ID column
>> >> > > which,
>> >> > > //in this case, will be "Class1", and column 2 will be a Text/Memo
>> >> > > column
>> >> > > //which will take the entire serialized object.
>> >> > > Success = MySavableClass.Save(MyC);
>> >> > >
>> >> > > //Later, I should be able to do this...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > private MySavableClass MyCRestored;
>> >> > > MyCRestored = MySavableClass.Restore("Class1");
>> >> > > if(MyCRestored == null)
>> >> > >  //Restoration failed!
>> >> > > else
>> >> > >  Writeln("MyCRestored.SomeOtherProperty = " +
>> >> > >               MyCRestored.SomeOtherProperty.ToString());
>> >> > >
>> >> > > etc., etc.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > All of this doesn't seem that hard but I have a few questions:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > 1. Do I have to set up any meta-tagging on my calss to make it
>> >> > > serializable
>> >> > > (it's a pretty simple class.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > 2. Which serialization method should I use if I want to save the
>> >> > > data
>> >> > > as
>> >> > > text to a database column?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Any other guidance you can provide will be much appreciated.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Alex
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>>
>>
>>
Author
31 May 2006 3:56 AM
Steven Cheng[MSFT]
Hi Alex,

For serializing and derializing .net class object so as to persist them as
text in database, you can consider both XmlSerialization(pure xml string
based) or BinarySerialization(need to convert the serialized binary data
into string, such as base64 convertion). Here are some simple code snippet
demostrating on using both binary and XML serialization to persist and
restore the class instance:


=========binary serialize============

//serialize the class instance and store the result into a TextBox
private void btnSerialize_Click(object sender, EventArgs e)
        {
            MySavableClass msc = new MySavableClass();

            msc.MyID = "id1";
            msc.Title = "default title";
            msc.Length = 100;

            BinaryFormatter bf = new BinaryFormatter();

            MemoryStream ms = new MemoryStream();

            bf.Serialize(ms, msc);


            byte[] bytes = ms.ToArray();

            string base64data = Convert.ToBase64String(bytes);

            textBox1.Text = base64data;

            ms.Close();


        }

//Deserialize the class instance from the text in the textbox
        private void btnDeserialize_Click(object sender, EventArgs e)
        {
            byte[] bytes = Convert.FromBase64String(textBox1.Text);

            MemoryStream ms = new MemoryStream(bytes);

            ms.Position = 0;

            BinaryFormatter bf = new BinaryFormatter();

            object obj = bf.Deserialize(ms);

            ms.Close();

            MySavableClass msc = obj as MySavableClass;

            if (msc != null)
            {
                MessageBox.Show(
                    string.Format("MyID: {0}\r\nTitle: {1}\r\nLength: {2}",
                    msc.MyID,msc.Title,msc.Length)
                    );

            }

        }

=============Xml serialization===============
        private void btnXmlSerialize_Click(object sender, EventArgs e)
        {
            MySavableClass msc = new MySavableClass();

            msc.MyID = "id1";
            msc.Title = "default title";
            msc.Length = 100;

            XmlSerializer serializer = new
XmlSerializer(typeof(MySavableClass));


            StringWriter sw = new StringWriter();


            serializer.Serialize(sw, msc);


            textBox1.Text = sw.ToString();

            sw.Close();

        }

        private void btnXmlDeserialize_Click(object sender, EventArgs e)
        {

            XmlSerializer serializer = new
XmlSerializer(typeof(MySavableClass));


            StringReader sr = new StringReader(textBox1.Text);

            object obj = serializer.Deserialize(sr);

            sr.Close();

            MySavableClass msc = obj as MySavableClass;

            if (msc != null)
            {
                MessageBox.Show(
                    string.Format("MyID: {0}\r\nTitle: {1}\r\nLength: {2}",
                    msc.MyID, msc.Title, msc.Length)
                    );

            }
        }
=======================================

=======test class==========
  [Serializable]
    public class MySavableClass
    {
        private string _myid;
        private string _title;
        private int _length;

        public MySavableClass()
        {

        }

        public string MyID
        {
            get { return _myid; }
            set { _myid = value; }
        }

        public string Title
        {
            get { return _title; }
            set { _title = value; }
        }

        public int Length
        {
            get { return _length; }
            set { _length = value; }
        }
    }
========================

In addition, you can have a look at the MSDN document about .net
serialization for further reference:

#XML and SOAP Serialization
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/cpguide/html/cpconserialization.asp?
frame=true

#Binary Serialization
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/cpguide/html/cpconbinaryserializatio
n.asp?frame=true

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Steven Cheng
Microsoft Online Community Support


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1 Jun 2006 11:29 AM
Steven Cheng[MSFT]
Hey Alex,

How are you doing on this issue or does my suggestion in the last reply
helps you some? If there is still anything we can help, please feel free to
post here.

Regards,

Steven Cheng
Microsoft Online Community Support


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