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Microsoft please install .NET 2.0 on all PCs> | "Damien" <Damien_The_Unbelie***@hotmail.com> wrote in message Unfortunately, not having .NET installed on every PC is a huge problem for > | Yes, requiring a 23MB download may seem prohibitively > | expensive... IF your application is the only .NET application installed > | on a users machine. But consider how much space you're saving the user > | if you and 20 other applications all install the bits of .NET framework > | they need as separate copies... any vendor wishing to sell .NET software. This is by far our biggest complaint about Microsoft, and we are Microsoft fans. It's inconceivable that Microsoft would invest so much in the excellent .NET platform and then fail to ensure that it's installed on every PC. Our only guess is that Microsoft is leery of forcing an install because then they may be also forced to install the JavaVM. We have spent the past few years (as part of Mini-Tools and my previous company) dealing with the .NET issue. Now that the issue of having .NET 1.1 installed is finally waning, here we go again with .NET 2.0. We are unable to upgrade and take advantage of the many new features and bug fixes in VS 2005 and .NET 2.0 because (from our data) less than 10% of our target customers have .NET 2.0 installed, and less than half of those without are willing to download the framework. Last week I bought a new HP PC for my father at Best Buy, and even though it's seven months after the release of ..NET 2.0, only .NET 1.1 was pre-installed. As informed programmers, we all know that .NET 2.0 is a benign & beneficial download, but try telling a customer on dialup that they need to download a 20+MB file just to run our program. We are losing downloads, evaluations and sales because of our support for .NET. Microsoft, if you are listening, the single most important thing that you can do to help ISVs supporting the Microsoft .NET platform is to force install .NET 2.0 on every PC as part of the next Windows update. Pretty please with sugar on top!! I have 2 words for you: Windows Update.
-- Show quoteHTH, Kevin Spencer Microsoft MVP Professional Numbskull The man who questions opinions is wise. The man who quarrels with facts is a fool. "Mini-Tools Timm" <info at mini-tools dot com> wrote in message news:BF18AABE-AA6E-43A7-8CF0-F9243CF42501@microsoft.com... >> | "Damien" <Damien_The_Unbelie***@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> | Yes, requiring a 23MB download may seem prohibitively >> | expensive... IF your application is the only .NET application installed >> | on a users machine. But consider how much space you're saving the user >> | if you and 20 other applications all install the bits of .NET framework >> | they need as separate copies... > > Unfortunately, not having .NET installed on every PC is a huge problem for > any vendor wishing to sell .NET software. This is by far our biggest > complaint about Microsoft, and we are Microsoft fans. It's inconceivable > that Microsoft would invest so much in the excellent .NET platform and > then > fail to ensure that it's installed on every PC. Our only guess is that > Microsoft is leery of forcing an install because then they may be also > forced > to install the JavaVM. > > We have spent the past few years (as part of Mini-Tools and my previous > company) dealing with the .NET issue. Now that the issue of having .NET > 1.1 > installed is finally waning, here we go again with .NET 2.0. We are > unable > to upgrade and take advantage of the many new features and bug fixes in VS > 2005 and .NET 2.0 because (from our data) less than 10% of our target > customers have .NET 2.0 installed, and less than half of those without are > willing to download the framework. Last week I bought a new HP PC for my > father at Best Buy, and even though it's seven months after the release of > .NET 2.0, only .NET 1.1 was pre-installed. As informed programmers, we > all > know that .NET 2.0 is a benign & beneficial download, but try telling a > customer on dialup that they need to download a 20+MB file just to run our > program. We are losing downloads, evaluations and sales because of our > support for .NET. > > Microsoft, if you are listening, the single most important thing that you > can do to help ISVs supporting the Microsoft .NET platform is to force > install .NET 2.0 on every PC as part of the next Windows update. Pretty > please with sugar on top!! > > -- > Timm Martin > Mini-Tools > .NET Components and Windows Software > http://www.mini-tools.com > > Kevin Spencer" wrote: Yes, exactly! If only Microsoft would force .NET 2.0 to be installed > I have 2 words for you: Windows Update. automatically during Windows Update, this would not be a problem. But on our fully legal WindowsXP machines with automatic Windows Update running, .NET 2.0 is still not installed after 7 months availability. In addition, our net stats and recent surveys show that less than 10% of our customers have .NET 2.0 installed, so obviously it's not being installed for the general population either. And it appears that .NET 2.0 is not included on new PCs either. So I agree that Windows Update is the right way to accomplish this, Microsoft needs to make it happen. As for .NET 2.0 being standard in Windows Vista, that won't help in practical terms for at least 1-2 years after availability due to the time it takes the masses to adopt a new OS, which means this problem won't be solved until at least 2009. I'll say it again: Microsoft should force install .NET 2.0 as part of the next automatic Windows update. Thanks for listening. It will also be an integral part of Vista.
-- Show quoteHTH, Kevin Spencer Microsoft MVP Professional Numbskull The man who questions opinions is wise. The man who quarrels with facts is a fool. "Mini-Tools Timm" <info at mini-tools dot com> wrote in message news:BF18AABE-AA6E-43A7-8CF0-F9243CF42501@microsoft.com... >> | "Damien" <Damien_The_Unbelie***@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> | Yes, requiring a 23MB download may seem prohibitively >> | expensive... IF your application is the only .NET application installed >> | on a users machine. But consider how much space you're saving the user >> | if you and 20 other applications all install the bits of .NET framework >> | they need as separate copies... > > Unfortunately, not having .NET installed on every PC is a huge problem for > any vendor wishing to sell .NET software. This is by far our biggest > complaint about Microsoft, and we are Microsoft fans. It's inconceivable > that Microsoft would invest so much in the excellent .NET platform and > then > fail to ensure that it's installed on every PC. Our only guess is that > Microsoft is leery of forcing an install because then they may be also > forced > to install the JavaVM. > > We have spent the past few years (as part of Mini-Tools and my previous > company) dealing with the .NET issue. Now that the issue of having .NET > 1.1 > installed is finally waning, here we go again with .NET 2.0. We are > unable > to upgrade and take advantage of the many new features and bug fixes in VS > 2005 and .NET 2.0 because (from our data) less than 10% of our target > customers have .NET 2.0 installed, and less than half of those without are > willing to download the framework. Last week I bought a new HP PC for my > father at Best Buy, and even though it's seven months after the release of > .NET 2.0, only .NET 1.1 was pre-installed. As informed programmers, we > all > know that .NET 2.0 is a benign & beneficial download, but try telling a > customer on dialup that they need to download a 20+MB file just to run our > program. We are losing downloads, evaluations and sales because of our > support for .NET. > > Microsoft, if you are listening, the single most important thing that you > can do to help ISVs supporting the Microsoft .NET platform is to force > install .NET 2.0 on every PC as part of the next Windows update. Pretty > please with sugar on top!! > > -- > Timm Martin > Mini-Tools > .NET Components and Windows Software > http://www.mini-tools.com >  |
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