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.NET app on a shared directory.ManagedC++). It works allright. Now someone askedme if it works when installed in a shared directory. So I'm testing, installed the application on a remote computer, in a shared folder and trying to run it from this remote folder. I have SecurityException all over the places, which doesn't surprise me. But how do I fix them? Also I have a problem with licencing. Currently I write something in the registry. But I need some kind of network licensing in such case. But Windows networking is a kind of mystery to me.. What could I do? I also know that some people might suggest active directory, but it's an optional component, is it not? -- Regards, Lloyd Dupont NovaMind development team NovaMind Software Mind Mapping Software <www.nova-mind.com> "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message You'll need to grant additional CAS permissions to your application on the news:OlzE1MtUGHA.4660@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >I have written a .NET application which does heavy use of interop (through >ManagedC++). > It works allright. > Now someone askedme if it works when installed in a shared directory. > So I'm testing, installed the application on a remote computer, in a > shared folder and trying to run it from this remote folder. > > I have SecurityException all over the places, which doesn't surprise me. > But how do I fix them? client machines on which it will run. If you're using fx 2.0, then deploying as a ClickOnce application is generally the simplest solution for this. Otherwise, you'll need to modify the CAS policy on the client machines, which can be done via network deployment tools. Your network administrators may already have something in place for this; if not, http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnnetsec/html/entsecpoladmin.asp is a good place to start looking into your options. Before granting additional permissions to your application, you'll also need to figure out which ones are missing. Permcalc can help with this if you're targeting fx 2.0. Otherwise, you'll need to decipher the missing permission information based on the exception details. If you need help with this, please post the full exception details (as returned from its ToString method) of a sample exception. > Also I have a problem with licencing. Currently I write something in the Exactly what sort of "network licensing" do you need? Are you trying to > registry. > But I need some kind of network licensing in such case. > But Windows networking is a kind of mystery to me.. What could I do? > I also know that some people might suggest active directory, but it's an > optional component, is it not? limit access to some server resources or simply to limit the number or identity of clients that can use a purely client-side application? If the latter, how would you expect the licensing scheme to behave when the licensing server is unavailable (for example, because the client cannot connect to the network)? > You'll need to grant additional CAS permissions to your application on the thanks for that.> client machines on which it will run. If you're using fx 2.0, then > deploying as a ClickOnce application is generally the simplest solution > for this. Otherwise, you'll need to modify the CAS policy on the client > machines, which can be done via network deployment tools. Your network > administrators may already have something in place for this; if not, > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnnetsec/html/entsecpoladmin.asp > is a good place to start looking into your options. > Exactly what sort of "network licensing" do you need? Are you trying to By network licensing I mean something like "a licence for 50 instances of > limit access to some server resources or simply to limit the number or > identity of clients that can use a purely client-side application? If the > latter, how would you expect the licensing scheme to behave when the > licensing server is unavailable (for example, because the client cannot > connect to the network)? the application at one time in the enterprise" IF somehow the licence application comes from the same computer on which the executable is (in a shared folder), there is no issue of licensing server unavailable. I'm thinking, perhaps I could write the newtork licence in the App.config file? "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message How would you enforce this? What would stop a user from simply making a news:%23UXeWuFVGHA.1688@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > By network licensing I mean something like "a licence for 50 instances of > the application at one time in the enterprise" > IF somehow the licence application comes from the same computer on which > the executable is (in a shared folder), there is no issue of licensing > server unavailable. > I'm thinking, perhaps I could write the newtork licence in the App.config > file? local copy of the application in this scenario, thereby bypassing any license counting mechanism? >> By network licensing I mean something like "a licence for 50 instances of Very simple, in such case I would revert to current licensing mechanism, >> the application at one time in the enterprise" >> IF somehow the licence application comes from the same computer on which >> the executable is (in a shared folder), there is no issue of licensing >> server unavailable. >> I'm thinking, perhaps I could write the newtork licence in the App.config >> file? > > How would you enforce this? What would stop a user from simply making a > local copy of the application in this scenario, thereby bypassing any > license counting mechanism? which check the licence key in the registry. But I would like to provide a way to avoid to have to enter the licence key on every single computer the software is used. How would you know to apply the licensing logic switch? Also, in the
scenario where the application is launched from the network location as planned, how would you count instances unless you're running a licensing server? Simply having a config file available won't expose the information that 50 instances are already running, so you won't be able to tell that the 51st instance has been launched. Or were you planning for the application instances to edit the config file to maintain the running instance count? Show quote "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message news:uWIkXQrVGHA.1572@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >>> By network licensing I mean something like "a licence for 50 instances >>> of the application at one time in the enterprise" >>> IF somehow the licence application comes from the same computer on which >>> the executable is (in a shared folder), there is no issue of licensing >>> server unavailable. >>> I'm thinking, perhaps I could write the newtork licence in the >>> App.config file? >> >> How would you enforce this? What would stop a user from simply making a >> local copy of the application in this scenario, thereby bypassing any >> license counting mechanism? > Very simple, in such case I would revert to current licensing mechanism, > which check the licence key in the registry. > But I would like to provide a way to avoid to have to enter the licence > key on every single computer the software is used. > For counting the number of license runnning I would just use a lawyer so
far... Any better ideas? I'm looking to answers more than questions in this topic! Otherwise when to apply network license or not.. mhh... I will have to have a special installer as the current installer just replace all files anyway... -- Show quoteRegards, Lloyd Dupont NovaMind development team NovaMind Software Mind Mapping Software <www.nova-mind.com> "Nicole Calinoiu" <calinoiu REMOVETHIS AT gmail DOT com> wrote in message news:ezTXVq%23VGHA.4424@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > How would you know to apply the licensing logic switch? Also, in the > scenario where the application is launched from the network location as > planned, how would you count instances unless you're running a licensing > server? Simply having a config file available won't expose the > information that 50 instances are already running, so you won't be able to > tell that the 51st instance has been launched. Or were you planning for > the application instances to edit the config file to maintain the running > instance count? > > > "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message > news:uWIkXQrVGHA.1572@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >>>> By network licensing I mean something like "a licence for 50 instances >>>> of the application at one time in the enterprise" >>>> IF somehow the licence application comes from the same computer on >>>> which the executable is (in a shared folder), there is no issue of >>>> licensing server unavailable. >>>> I'm thinking, perhaps I could write the newtork licence in the >>>> App.config file? >>> >>> How would you enforce this? What would stop a user from simply making a >>> local copy of the application in this scenario, thereby bypassing any >>> license counting mechanism? >> Very simple, in such case I would revert to current licensing mechanism, >> which check the licence key in the registry. >> But I would like to provide a way to avoid to have to enter the licence >> key on every single computer the software is used. >> > Unfortunately, design guidance for the licensing scheme of a commercial
software product isn't the sort of help you're likely to find for free on a newsgroup since pretty much anyone who is qualified to provide such guidance will expect to be paid for their efforts. Have you considered trying to find someone with appropriate expertise to consult on this project? Show quote "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message news:%23HT79JFWGHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > For counting the number of license runnning I would just use a lawyer so > far... > Any better ideas? I'm looking to answers more than questions in this > topic! > > Otherwise when to apply network license or not.. mhh... I will have to > have a special installer as the current installer just replace all files > anyway... > > -- > Regards, > Lloyd Dupont > > NovaMind development team > NovaMind Software > Mind Mapping Software > <www.nova-mind.com> > "Nicole Calinoiu" <calinoiu REMOVETHIS AT gmail DOT com> wrote in message > news:ezTXVq%23VGHA.4424@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >> How would you know to apply the licensing logic switch? Also, in the >> scenario where the application is launched from the network location as >> planned, how would you count instances unless you're running a licensing >> server? Simply having a config file available won't expose the >> information that 50 instances are already running, so you won't be able >> to tell that the 51st instance has been launched. Or were you planning >> for the application instances to edit the config file to maintain the >> running instance count? >> >> >> "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message >> news:uWIkXQrVGHA.1572@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >>>>> By network licensing I mean something like "a licence for 50 instances >>>>> of the application at one time in the enterprise" >>>>> IF somehow the licence application comes from the same computer on >>>>> which the executable is (in a shared folder), there is no issue of >>>>> licensing server unavailable. >>>>> I'm thinking, perhaps I could write the newtork licence in the >>>>> App.config file? >>>> >>>> How would you enforce this? What would stop a user from simply making >>>> a local copy of the application in this scenario, thereby bypassing any >>>> license counting mechanism? >>> Very simple, in such case I would revert to current licensing mechanism, >>> which check the licence key in the registry. >>> But I would like to provide a way to avoid to have to enter the licence >>> key on every single computer the software is used. >>> >> > > > will expect to be paid for their efforts. Have you considered trying to In fact I'm not sure there are sure (efficient, simple and reliable) way of > find someone with appropriate expertise to consult on this project? Not really. doing that. -- Show quoteRegards, Lloyd Dupont NovaMind development team NovaMind Software Mind Mapping Software <www.nova-mind.com> "Nicole Calinoiu" <calinoiu REMOVETHIS AT gmail DOT com> wrote in message news:uB4$fwWXGHA.3740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Unfortunately, design guidance for the licensing scheme of a commercial > software product isn't the sort of help you're likely to find for free on > a newsgroup since pretty much anyone who is qualified to provide such > guidance will expect to be paid for their efforts. Have you considered > trying to find someone with appropriate expertise to consult on this > project? > > > "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message > news:%23HT79JFWGHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> For counting the number of license runnning I would just use a lawyer so >> far... >> Any better ideas? I'm looking to answers more than questions in this >> topic! >> >> Otherwise when to apply network license or not.. mhh... I will have to >> have a special installer as the current installer just replace all files >> anyway... >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Lloyd Dupont >> >> NovaMind development team >> NovaMind Software >> Mind Mapping Software >> <www.nova-mind.com> >> "Nicole Calinoiu" <calinoiu REMOVETHIS AT gmail DOT com> wrote in message >> news:ezTXVq%23VGHA.4424@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >>> How would you know to apply the licensing logic switch? Also, in the >>> scenario where the application is launched from the network location as >>> planned, how would you count instances unless you're running a licensing >>> server? Simply having a config file available won't expose the >>> information that 50 instances are already running, so you won't be able >>> to tell that the 51st instance has been launched. Or were you planning >>> for the application instances to edit the config file to maintain the >>> running instance count? >>> >>> >>> "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message >>> news:uWIkXQrVGHA.1572@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >>>>>> By network licensing I mean something like "a licence for 50 >>>>>> instances of the application at one time in the enterprise" >>>>>> IF somehow the licence application comes from the same computer on >>>>>> which the executable is (in a shared folder), there is no issue of >>>>>> licensing server unavailable. >>>>>> I'm thinking, perhaps I could write the newtork licence in the >>>>>> App.config file? >>>>> >>>>> How would you enforce this? What would stop a user from simply making >>>>> a local copy of the application in this scenario, thereby bypassing >>>>> any license counting mechanism? >>>> Very simple, in such case I would revert to current licensing >>>> mechanism, which check the licence key in the registry. >>>> But I would like to provide a way to avoid to have to enter the licence >>>> key on every single computer the software is used. >>>> >>> >> >> > Are you a registered ISV partner
(https://partner.microsoft.com/global/40009578)? If so, you should have access to advisory support from Microsoft (https://partner.microsoft.com/global/40016379). If they're not able to help suggest an approach directly, they should probably be able to refer you to someone with appropriate expertise. Show quote "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message news:ud22NbeXGHA.3684@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> will expect to be paid for their efforts. Have you considered trying to >> find someone with appropriate expertise to consult on this project? > Not really. > In fact I'm not sure there are sure (efficient, simple and reliable) way > of doing that. > > -- > Regards, > Lloyd Dupont > > NovaMind development team > NovaMind Software > Mind Mapping Software > <www.nova-mind.com> > "Nicole Calinoiu" <calinoiu REMOVETHIS AT gmail DOT com> wrote in message > news:uB4$fwWXGHA.3740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Unfortunately, design guidance for the licensing scheme of a commercial >> software product isn't the sort of help you're likely to find for free on >> a newsgroup since pretty much anyone who is qualified to provide such >> guidance will expect to be paid for their efforts. Have you considered >> trying to find someone with appropriate expertise to consult on this >> project? >> >> >> "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message >> news:%23HT79JFWGHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> For counting the number of license runnning I would just use a lawyer so >>> far... >>> Any better ideas? I'm looking to answers more than questions in this >>> topic! >>> >>> Otherwise when to apply network license or not.. mhh... I will have to >>> have a special installer as the current installer just replace all files >>> anyway... >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> Lloyd Dupont >>> >>> NovaMind development team >>> NovaMind Software >>> Mind Mapping Software >>> <www.nova-mind.com> >>> "Nicole Calinoiu" <calinoiu REMOVETHIS AT gmail DOT com> wrote in >>> message news:ezTXVq%23VGHA.4424@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >>>> How would you know to apply the licensing logic switch? Also, in the >>>> scenario where the application is launched from the network location as >>>> planned, how would you count instances unless you're running a >>>> licensing server? Simply having a config file available won't expose >>>> the information that 50 instances are already running, so you won't be >>>> able to tell that the 51st instance has been launched. Or were you >>>> planning for the application instances to edit the config file to >>>> maintain the running instance count? >>>> >>>> >>>> "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message >>>> news:uWIkXQrVGHA.1572@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> By network licensing I mean something like "a licence for 50 >>>>>>> instances of the application at one time in the enterprise" >>>>>>> IF somehow the licence application comes from the same computer on >>>>>>> which the executable is (in a shared folder), there is no issue of >>>>>>> licensing server unavailable. >>>>>>> I'm thinking, perhaps I could write the newtork licence in the >>>>>>> App.config file? >>>>>> >>>>>> How would you enforce this? What would stop a user from simply >>>>>> making a local copy of the application in this scenario, thereby >>>>>> bypassing any license counting mechanism? >>>>> Very simple, in such case I would revert to current licensing >>>>> mechanism, which check the licence key in the registry. >>>>> But I would like to provide a way to avoid to have to enter the >>>>> licence key on every single computer the software is used. >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:52:35 +0900, Lloyd Dupont <net.galador@ld> wrote:
> I have written a .NET application which does heavy use of interop For SecurityException thrown by .NET CLR, you can get rid of it by > (through > ManagedC++). > It works allright. > Now someone askedme if it works when installed in a shared directory. > So I'm testing, installed the application on a remote computer, in a > shared > folder and trying to run it from this remote folder. > > I have SecurityException all over the places, which doesn't surprise me. > But how do I fix them? adjusting the security setting using .NET Framework Configuration Tools,which can be found in Administrative Tools if you have your .NET Framework installed. > Why not carry out an alternative method to save information other than > Also I have a problem with licencing. Currently I write something in the > registry. registry? > But I need some kind of network licensing in such case. Good luck!> But Windows networking is a kind of mystery to me.. What could I do? > I also know that some people might suggest active directory, but it's an > optional component, is it not? > -- Tony Zhou  |
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