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16 Mar 2006 9:27 PM
Sam Norris
Is there anyone that can give me more info on KB913384?  I've found a
dotnet2 hotfix1 on the web and its our exact problem, but we won't
install until we know its legit and more about what it was originally
created for...

[Patch Attributes]
PatchCode={DC18570F-307A-4ECA-BBF8-CC025CF6C483}
ID=KB913384
Uninstallable=1
[Wrapper Config]
PatchTitle=NDP20-KB913384-X86
KBArticle=913384

http://www.builderdash.com/DotNet2.0_hotfix1.exe

Changes the framework to 2.50727.63 ...

Thx

Author
21 Mar 2006 7:51 PM
Sam
So I take it this is a super secret hotfix that no one should have
knowledge about : )
Author
21 May 2006 4:01 PM
LvBohemian
I have read KB913384...

and personally downloaded the fix from...
http://www.builderdash.com/DotNet2.0_hotfix1.exe 

the only thing that Microsoft has on it at this time is...
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;913384&sd=rss&sp
id=8291

Interestingly enough, they do not provide a download link only a contact
url for this problem at:
http://support.microsoft.com/contactus/?ws=support

I had this problem with IIS6 and Windows Server 2003, latest patches
etc; as soon as I started setting up ASP.NET 2.0/.NET Framework 2.0
applications, when the Visual Studio 2005 RTM was released in November
2005...

This hot fix did in fact solve my problem...

I guess Microsoft does not want it to be common knowledge that they put
out their flagship product(s) with access violations that occur in very
common deployment configurations.


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Author
21 May 2006 4:43 PM
Carl Daniel [VC++ MVP]
LvBohemian wrote:
> I have read KB913384...
>
> and personally downloaded the fix from...
> http://www.builderdash.com/DotNet2.0_hotfix1.exe

I suppose you didn't bother trying to contact product support to see what it
takes to get a hotfix.  When I've gone through the process it took less than
15 minutes and was done entirely by email.  Someone from product support
even followed up a few days later to make sure the hotfix solved my problem
(which it did).  As is, you installed an executable that you got from a 3rd
party that may or may not actually contain (just) the official hotfix - I
hope you really trust builderdash.com - whoever that is.  I wouldn't.

> I guess Microsoft does not want it to be common knowledge that they
> put out their flagship product(s) with access violations that occur
> in very common deployment configurations.

....or maybe they just followed their standard practice for hotfixes - write
a knowledge base article and make the hotfix available for those who need
it.  Hotifxes are generally subject to only limited testing and frequently
have interdependencies that require management (e.g. there may be two
hotfixes for problem B depending on whether you've already go the hotfix for
problem A).

Hotfixes are the primary component of service packs, at which time they get
fully tested and broadly deployed.

-cd
Author
29 May 2006 5:30 PM
LvBohemian
Thank you for your response and opinion...

I did in fact verify that the download at
http://www.builderdash.com/DotNet2.0_hotfix1.exe
Was valid for KB913384 and that in my opinion Microsoft Product
Consumers would be better served by
Supplying a link to directly download hot fix, instead of another layer
and subsequent delay in determining if this will resolve issue or not.
It’s been my experience (including but not limited to KB913384) that in
contacting Microsoft Product Support Services it is seldom responded to
instantly...
Which when trying to resolve something like this; is needed. In my
opinion, if an individual wants to test a hot fix, let them do so at
their own risk; if they have one already available that may or may not
solve the problem; give them a direct link for instant gratification.
Obviously the testing of such a hot fix would be on a development test
server for testing service packs, hot fixes etc…

In the time it took MSPSS to respond to KB913384, in my case I could
have totally re-installed the o/s on the server and several others and
reinstalled all web apps, services etc...

It took them Days, not minutes to respond...
Which considering the number I MS product users, I do not find extreme;
so I reiterate if they have a possible fix; make it available for
instant gratification/validation etc.

Best Regards,
LvBohemian
[MAS, BAS, MCAD, MCSD, MCSE, MCDBA, et. al.]


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Author
30 May 2006 12:55 PM
Michael D. Ober
Really - I contactes PSS after the third VB compiler crash that routed me to
the technet article about a supported hotfix.  In less than 30 minutes, I
had the hotfix for not only that particular problem, but also for the
framework IDE performance issue, which I hadn't even run across.

Downloading a MS hotfix from other than a site MS given you by PSS is simply
dangerous.

Mike Ober.

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"LvBohemian" <nospam@devdex.com> wrote in message
news:O5ewmW0gGHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Thank you for your response and opinion...
>
> I did in fact verify that the download at
> http://www.builderdash.com/DotNet2.0_hotfix1.exe
> Was valid for KB913384 and that in my opinion Microsoft Product
> Consumers would be better served by
> Supplying a link to directly download hot fix, instead of another layer
> and subsequent delay in determining if this will resolve issue or not.
> It's been my experience (including but not limited to KB913384) that in
> contacting Microsoft Product Support Services it is seldom responded to
> instantly...
> Which when trying to resolve something like this; is needed. In my
> opinion, if an individual wants to test a hot fix, let them do so at
> their own risk; if they have one already available that may or may not
> solve the problem; give them a direct link for instant gratification.
> Obviously the testing of such a hot fix would be on a development test
> server for testing service packs, hot fixes etc.
>
> In the time it took MSPSS to respond to KB913384, in my case I could
> have totally re-installed the o/s on the server and several others and
> reinstalled all web apps, services etc...
>
> It took them Days, not minutes to respond...
> Which considering the number I MS product users, I do not find extreme;
> so I reiterate if they have a possible fix; make it available for
> instant gratification/validation etc.
>
> Best Regards,
> LvBohemian
> [MAS, BAS, MCAD, MCSD, MCSE, MCDBA, et. al.]
>
>
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>

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