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27 Apr 2006 1:43 AM
barret bonden
A client of mine has a young man who has written a web app (a CRM in dot.net
1.1) using many frames .it looks good , but is hard to maintain, passing, as
it does, parameters from one frame to the next. These parameters allow the
synchronization of datagirds, leading to my technically naive question (as I've
only played with VS 2003 ) : are frames at all necessary in a web app ? It
seems to me that eliminating them would allow for the use of simpler
variables to synch the datagrids ..he tells me the use of frames speeds up
data access...

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27 Apr 2006 4:53 AM
Cor Ligthert [MVP]
Barret,

Although typical not a question for this newsgroup but for the ASPNET one.

Frames are not needed however give you more the change to use uniform
webpages. As you wrote they are often difficult to maintain.

With the version 2.0 masterpage you don't have to use frames anymore. It
works almost the same, however there is a better communication between the
masterpage and what are now frames, what makes it easier to maintain.

I hope this helps,

Cor

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"barret bonden" <supp***@networks-cc.com> schreef in bericht
news:0lV3g.577$xW4.319@fe12.lga...
>A client of mine has a young man who has written a web app (a CRM in
>dot.net 1.1) using many frames .it looks good , but is hard to maintain,
>passing, as it does, parameters from one frame to the next. These
>parameters allow the synchronization of datagirds, leading to my
>technically naive question (as I've only played with VS 2003 ) : are frames
>at all necessary in a web app ? It seems to me that eliminating them would
>allow for the use of simpler variables to synch the datagrids ..he tells me
>the use of frames speeds up data access...
>
Author
27 Apr 2006 8:37 AM
Greg Young [MVP]
Even in 1.1 you could use dynamic control placement to avoid such things and
mae the system more maintainable.

As for it speeding up the data acces .. I would love to hear a full argument
with code on that, smells funny to me :)

Cheers,

Greg
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"barret bonden" <supp***@networks-cc.com> wrote in message
news:0lV3g.577$xW4.319@fe12.lga...
>A client of mine has a young man who has written a web app (a CRM in
>dot.net 1.1) using many frames .it looks good , but is hard to maintain,
>passing, as it does, parameters from one frame to the next. These
>parameters allow the synchronization of datagirds, leading to my
>technically naive question (as I've only played with VS 2003 ) : are frames
>at all necessary in a web app ? It seems to me that eliminating them would
>allow for the use of simpler variables to synch the datagrids ..he tells me
>the use of frames speeds up data access...
>
Author
30 Apr 2006 1:07 AM
Chris Chilvers
Would sound like he has two or more large datasets on screen at once.
Frames would then allow you to only reload one dataset at a time. Might
also have gained a lot of bloat on the viewstate, datagrids have that
drawback as they don't allow you to selectivly disable the viewstate for
the data but maintain the rest of the datagrid's viewstate for
selection, etc.

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 04:37:54 -0400, "Greg Young [MVP]"
<DruckDruckGo***@hotmail.com> wrote:

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>Even in 1.1 you could use dynamic control placement to avoid such things and
>mae the system more maintainable.
>
>As for it speeding up the data acces .. I would love to hear a full argument
>with code on that, smells funny to me :)
>
>Cheers,
>
>Greg
>"barret bonden" <supp***@networks-cc.com> wrote in message
>news:0lV3g.577$xW4.319@fe12.lga...
>>A client of mine has a young man who has written a web app (a CRM in
>>dot.net 1.1) using many frames .it looks good , but is hard to maintain,
>>passing, as it does, parameters from one frame to the next. These
>>parameters allow the synchronization of datagirds, leading to my
>>technically naive question (as I've only played with VS 2003 ) : are frames
>>at all necessary in a web app ? It seems to me that eliminating them would
>>allow for the use of simpler variables to synch the datagrids ..he tells me
>>the use of frames speeds up data access...
>>
>
Author
1 May 2006 11:40 AM
Greg Young
Yes viewstate overhead I might be able to buy ... but data access?


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"Chris Chilvers" <kee***@dynafus.com> wrote in message
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> Would sound like he has two or more large datasets on screen at once.
> Frames would then allow you to only reload one dataset at a time. Might
> also have gained a lot of bloat on the viewstate, datagrids have that
> drawback as they don't allow you to selectivly disable the viewstate for
> the data but maintain the rest of the datagrid's viewstate for
> selection, etc.
>
> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 04:37:54 -0400, "Greg Young [MVP]"
> <DruckDruckGo***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Even in 1.1 you could use dynamic control placement to avoid such things
>>and
>>mae the system more maintainable.
>>
>>As for it speeding up the data acces .. I would love to hear a full
>>argument
>>with code on that, smells funny to me :)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Greg
>>"barret bonden" <supp***@networks-cc.com> wrote in message
>>news:0lV3g.577$xW4.319@fe12.lga...
>>>A client of mine has a young man who has written a web app (a CRM in
>>>dot.net 1.1) using many frames .it looks good , but is hard to maintain,
>>>passing, as it does, parameters from one frame to the next. These
>>>parameters allow the synchronization of datagirds, leading to my
>>>technically naive question (as I've only played with VS 2003 ) : are
>>>frames
>>>at all necessary in a web app ? It seems to me that eliminating them
>>>would
>>>allow for the use of simpler variables to synch the datagrids ..he tells
>>>me
>>>the use of frames speeds up data access...
>>>
>>

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