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Can FTP but cannot publish -- do I need the FP extensions??

Author
29 Jan 2009 10:43 PM
Kickin' Ass & Takin' Names

Here's the latest installment in the saga of "I cannot publish no
matter what I try."

Here's the background:  I maintain five websites on three different
hosts.  Four of the five publish fine.  One has developed a glitch
that will not let me publish.

When I try to publish, FP goes through the usual processes -- asks for
user ID and password, tries to connect to remote site, remote site
file structure pops up in the right-hand file window, and it looks as
though publishing is going along fine.

Then, I get an error message "Cannot find webserver 'mydomain.org' at
Port 80."  Then it says something about check your settings and try
again.

I can try and retry and at times the edited pages that I want to
publish do appear on the live website -- looks like they were
published.  Most of the time, however, nothing happens except
frustration.

I removed and installed FP extensions time and again to no avail.

So -- I contacted another host service and signed up with them for one
month hosting, thinking that the problem may be with my host server.

The new host gave me DNS info and an IP address to which I can publish
my website until the new DNS propagates.

I published to the new host at http://NNN.NNN.NNN.NNN --   AND THE
SAME DAMN THING HAPPENED -- got the "port 80" error message and when
parts of the website published, they were screwed up -- no theme,
links not all working, and the like.

So -- I tried another approach.  In FP I opened a new website from
scratch and made an index.htm file.  Then, I told FP to FTP the new
site to the IP address:  ftp://NNN.NNN.NNN.NNN -- and it FTP'ed the
new website without a problem.

Now what I plan to do is rebuild my website using FP but without any
of the FP goodies -- no theme, no hit counter, and the like.  This
website contains only text and photos, links to a few other sites, and
a place for people to send email to the webmaster.

If all I am doing is entering text and photos on this site, do I need
the FP extensions installed on the host -- if not, is there any
problem with leaving the extensions installed?

Thanks.

Author
30 Jan 2009 1:44 PM
Tom [Pepper] Willett
:
: If all I am doing is entering text and photos on this site, do I need
: the FP extensions installed on the host
>NO
-- if not, is there any
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: problem with leaving the extensions installed?

>They'll become corrupted when using FTP, and could cause problems with your
>site.
:
: Thanks.

--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
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Author
31 Jan 2009 1:03 AM
Kickin' Ass & Takin' Names
On Jan 30, 8:44 am, "Tom [Pepper] Willett"
<t***@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote:
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> :
> : If all I am doing is entering text and photos on this site, do I need
> : the FP extensions installed on the host>NO
>
>  -- if not, is there any
> : problem with leaving the extensions installed?
>
> >They'll become corrupted when using FTP, and could cause problems with your
> >site.
>
> :
> : Thanks.
>
> --
> Tom [Pepper] Willett
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> ---------------------------



Thanks, Tom.  I appreciate your time and attention.

After trying everything I know, everything my host tech support told
me to do, and everything that folks here suggested, I still could not
publish to my host.  I moved the site to a new host -- AND COULD NOT
PUBLISH TO THAT HOST, EITHER -- same problem.

So, as I said, I started a new website, rebuilt the one that was not
working, removed FP extensions from the new host per your suggestion,
and am now maintaining this site by FTP'ing from a separate FTP
application -- FileZilla -- I edit the site in FP and use FileZILLA to
FTP -- it's working fine.

I may ought to get an HTML editor and maintain this site without FP.
Author
31 Jan 2009 2:12 AM
Trevor Lawrence
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>"Kickin' Ass & Takin' Names" <PopUlist***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:38724584-b199-428b-80c9-21bda7d71ece@q35g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
>On Jan 30, 8:44 am, "Tom [Pepper] Willett"
><t***@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote:
>> :
>> : If all I am doing is entering text and photos on this site, do I need
>> : the FP extensions installed on the host>NO
>>
>> -- if not, is there any
>> : problem with leaving the extensions installed?
>>
>> >They'll become corrupted when using FTP, and could cause problems with
>> >your
>> >site.
>>
>> :
>> : Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> Tom [Pepper] Willett
>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>> ---------------------------
>
>
>
>Thanks, Tom.  I appreciate your time and attention.
>
>After trying everything I know, everything my host tech support told
>me to do, and everything that folks here suggested, I still could not
>publish to my host.  I moved the site to a new host -- AND COULD NOT
>PUBLISH TO THAT HOST, EITHER -- same problem.
>
>So, as I said, I started a new website, rebuilt the one that was not
>working, removed FP extensions from the new host per your suggestion,
>and am now maintaining this site by FTP'ing from a separate FTP
>application -- FileZilla -- I edit the site in FP and use FileZILLA to
>FTP -- it's working fine.
>
>
> I may ought to get an HTML editor and maintain this site without FP.

If your site doesn't use FPSE, this is quite a reasonable thing to do

My site at http://tandcl.homemail.com.au/ doesn't and I have no problems
with using FileZilla or FP to publish, whichever I feel like at the time.

Actually, come to think of it, I will more often use UltraEdit as an HTML
editor and only use FP to publish. (UltraEdit highlights keywords.) But you
could also try Expression Web which has a true HTML editor. Syntax errors
are indicated by a wavy red line, even things like "All image tags must have
an alt attritbute" I must tell myself to use it.

--
Trevor Lawrence
Canberra
Web Site http://trevorl.mvps.org

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