"Amit" <remove.ami***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm looking for a good persistence framework to use with a new project.
> Gentle.NET looks promising but doesn't support SQL Server stored
procedures
> as far as I can tell. Any tips on that? Is ObjectSpaces still scheduled to
> be released with Whidbey or has it been pushed off?
> Thanks,
> amit
>
>

"Frans Bouma [C# MVP]" <perseus.usenetNOSPAM@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
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> Amit wrote:
> > I'm looking for a good persistence framework to use with a new project.
> > Gentle.NET looks promising but doesn't support SQL Server stored
procedures
> > as far as I can tell. Any tips on that? Is ObjectSpaces still scheduled
to
> > be released with Whidbey or has it been pushed off?
>
> Objectspaces is canceled and moved into WinFS which doesn't have a
> release date set (> 2007)
>
> If you need stored procedures for CRUD operations on entities, there
> aren't a lot of frameworks who support them, and frankly, it's not that
> great, as it will give you a lot of maintenance overhead. if you want to
> call procs as well as work with normal O/R mapper functionality using
> dyn. sql, see my signature :)
>
> Frans.
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Get LLBLGen Pro, productive O/R mapping for .NET: http://www.llblgen.com
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> Microsoft MVP (C#)
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"W.G. Ryan eMVP" <WilliamRyan@NoSpam.gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Yes, I agree with Frans.  However I saw a picture of his backyard and he's
> living it up over there so make him give you 50% of LLBLGenPro (which is a
> first rate product in every regard) - or make him send me a plane ticket
> over there.
>
> --
> W.G. Ryan MVP (Windows Embedded)
>
> TiBA Solutions
> www.tibasolutions.com | www.devbuzz.com | www.knowdotnet.com
> "Frans Bouma [C# MVP]" <perseus.usenetNOSPAM@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
> news:OVszcNQ8EHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Amit wrote:
>> > I'm looking for a good persistence framework to use with a new project.
>> > Gentle.NET looks promising but doesn't support SQL Server stored
> procedures
>> > as far as I can tell. Any tips on that? Is ObjectSpaces still scheduled
> to
>> > be released with Whidbey or has it been pushed off?
>>
>> Objectspaces is canceled and moved into WinFS which doesn't have a
>> release date set (> 2007)
>>
>> If you need stored procedures for CRUD operations on entities, there
>> aren't a lot of frameworks who support them, and frankly, it's not that
>> great, as it will give you a lot of maintenance overhead. if you want to
>> call procs as well as work with normal O/R mapper functionality using
>> dyn. sql, see my signature :)
>>
>> Frans.
>>
>> --
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Get LLBLGen Pro, productive O/R mapping for .NET: http://www.llblgen.com
>> My .NET blog: http://weblogs.asp.net/fbouma
>> Microsoft MVP (C#)
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>

"Sahil Malik" <contactmethrumyblog@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> The rest of the 50% is mine, or a plane ticket, or both.
>
> - Sahil Malik
> http://dotnetjunkies.com/weblog/sahilmalik
>
>
> "W.G. Ryan eMVP" <WilliamRyan@NoSpam.gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uDHrkZT8EHA.2032@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Yes, I agree with Frans.  However I saw a picture of his backyard and
he's
> > living it up over there so make him give you 50% of LLBLGenPro (which is
a
> > first rate product in every regard) - or make him send me a plane ticket
> > over there.
> >
> > --
> > W.G. Ryan MVP (Windows Embedded)
> >
> > TiBA Solutions
> > www.tibasolutions.com | www.devbuzz.com | www.knowdotnet.com
> > "Frans Bouma [C# MVP]" <perseus.usenetNOSPAM@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
> > news:OVszcNQ8EHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> Amit wrote:
> >> > I'm looking for a good persistence framework to use with a new
project.
> >> > Gentle.NET looks promising but doesn't support SQL Server stored
> > procedures
> >> > as far as I can tell. Any tips on that? Is ObjectSpaces still
scheduled
> > to
> >> > be released with Whidbey or has it been pushed off?
> >>
> >> Objectspaces is canceled and moved into WinFS which doesn't have a
> >> release date set (> 2007)
> >>
> >> If you need stored procedures for CRUD operations on entities, there
> >> aren't a lot of frameworks who support them, and frankly, it's not that
> >> great, as it will give you a lot of maintenance overhead. if you want
to
> >> call procs as well as work with normal O/R mapper functionality using
> >> dyn. sql, see my signature :)
> >>
> >> Frans.
> >>
> >> --
>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Get LLBLGen Pro, productive O/R mapping for .NET:

> >> My .NET blog: http://weblogs.asp.net/fbouma
> >> Microsoft MVP (C#)
>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
>
>

"Frans Bouma [C# MVP]" <perseus.usenetNOSPAM@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
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> W.G. Ryan eMVP wrote:
>> Deal.
>>
> LOL :)
>
> Btw, you do know that picture was taken back in august 2004? ;) It's
> freaking cold out there right now ;)
>
> FB

>
> :-))
>
> Cor
>
>

"Sahil Malik" <contactmethrumyblog@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Oh My !! There isn't enough alcohol in the world to make me do that.
>
>
> "Cor Ligthert" <notmyfirstn***@planet.nl> wrote in message
> news:OaqEE$Z8EHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Sahil,
> >
> > Don't believe Frans too much at that "Pier" thousands of people swim at
> that
> > first of Januari
> >
> > Here some pictures I thought from this year
> >
> >
>

> >
> > :-))
> >
> > Cor
> >
> >
>
>

"Frans Bouma [C# MVP]" <perseus.usenetNOSPAM@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
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> W.G. Ryan eMVP wrote:
> > I think the Netherlands has other stuff in case you don't like Alcohol.
> > On a serious note though - man - that's a really beautfiul view.  If I
lived
> > there I wouldn't even be able to have my computer cave because I'd
actually
> > open up my blinds and let light in so I could see out.
>
> heh :) But in the summer it can be erm... crowdy as well:
> http://weblogs.asp.net/fbouma/archive/2004/08/08/210833.aspx
>
> Still great though ;)
>
> > Back when I lived in Miami I lived right on the water and the strip I
lived
> > on was private beaches - pretty good view except there were a lot of
male
> > tourists that liked wearing speedos and thongs - looks like that trend
> > didn't make it over to where Frans and Cor are though - so they get a
great
> > view and no male speedos - lucky SOBs.
>
> *ieks*... well, on the plus-side women over here did accept that
> tradition ;)
>
> Frans.